Sugar Ray Leonard - Greatness Cut Short?

^ Boy! You are one big dreamer aren't you?

 

Rooster,just **** off. You dont deserve to even talk in any thread about leonard....
Go back to haglers'/norris' /camachos' nuts you delusional sack of chicken ****.....

 

Let's not overdo it. He only had two fights at 154 including the disaster with Norris. And please dont call Kalule a great win. Davey Moore with his ten fights beat the same Ayub kalule and so did prospect McCallum. How is Ray one of the greats at 154 when it's so hard to find more than one win there? In fact, it's impossible. :smoke

 

Why should I? Are you too afraid to talk facts instead of hype no one believes? Where are all these great wins at jr middle you keep talking about. The endless conquests at 147?

Bye loser! :hi:

 

Is duran not a great at 140 and 147? How many fights/achievements did he have at these weights? Ditto robinson at 154.
Case closed.....

 

Duran never had a fight at 140 atsch And there was no jr middle division in 1950. Boy, you need help bad!

As for 147, I don't know does having 6 fights make you great. Has anyone ever become great in one division with just 6 fights?

 

I know roberto had no fights at 140...Thats the point i was making.
If a guy achieved great things at 147 and had a great win at 160,then surely he is great head to head at the weight in between this.
Is robinson untested /unranked at 154 because there was no division there in his day?

 

He had STACKS of them, including Saoul Mamby you bumbling tool

 

Thomas Hearns at 154lbs had around 6 fights. Many people have him as their number one at the weight.

Five were title fights and the other was a non title bout.

 

Tommy was about the only exception being he was so young and barely starting his championship years. The best was yet to come of course. No longer was he the stumbling young colt and with his height, was in sore need of some added muscle. By 1984 he had become a fearsome God in the ring whom no fighter was capable of competing with. He had replaced Camacho as boxing's second best fighter and many thought to be its best fighter.

Duran on the other hand was 29 whose best years were probably behind him-too late to really be on the upswing of his career. In addition, he was carrying all that extra weight and lost his fine muscular tone that he carried when he was more lean 135 pounder. Now he appeared pudgy, his arms short thick undefined and with a marked loss of speed. Still a capable fighter though.

Have to give Ray credit-he hung in there.

 

Have a look at the last post on the thread "best performances from weight drained fighters" In no way was I saying that Hearns' performance against Leonard was the best as he lost the fight, but whats written came from the horses mouth, not mines.