sugar ray leonard had way more skill than may and pac

Thanks. I know my boxing.

 

Like he did with Duran? He didnt make any adjustments. In the rematch he made the adjustments. It took him 15+ rounds to figure out he wasnt skilled enough to stand toe to toe without getting hit?

 

I agree with the TS. They were more complete and versatile fighters.

 

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! This foolio is crazy as HELL!!! He said, "Cold hard truth" LMAO, "Not quite as good as SRL thats a gennerally accepted 'FACT'" Man its not even an ARGUEMENT. SRL tried to stand toe to toe with Duran, and got beat up for 15 rounds. He had to run in the rematch because he isnt skilled enough to stand toe to toe. Floyd is THE most PHENOMENALLY Slick fighter, in the HISTORY of boxing. This kid is fundamentallly advanced out the AZZ!!!! And he has the intangibles, he can tie up, clinch, avoid an 8 count. He is just MUCH to good in comparison. People overrate SRL's offense as if it was something special. Man he threw just as many punches as any other fighter. PACMONSTER's offense, in his prime, was EXTRAORDINARY!!!! Both of them are better than SRL, And its not even an argument man, lets just stop talking about it. And btw, when I said fighters of a present era are better, I didnt mean ALL of them. I meant ATG's of a present era, are more advanced because of the times. Ward is better than SRL. Everytime Ward fights, he changes his whole style to match up with an opponent. Every single time he fights, this guy is a chamillion. SRL comes from an era where you just get in the ring and fight. He made NO adjustments against Duran, who he should have beat easily. Ward's plus- is 15, SRL's is 14 I think. Floyd at his prime, landed 46% of his punches, his opponents landed 16% his plus minus was plus-30. LOL which TECHNICALLY means he is TWICE as talented as SRL's bumazz!!! Floyd's numbers are 3rd behind Lennox Lewis, and Joe Lewis. Of course Lennox had that height, so it was harder for guys to hit him.

 

reading comprehension issue here

 

Well Leonard fought a higher level of competition than both Manny and Floyd. Leonard proving himself against a way higher level of competition makes him more proven/skilled. If we are talking about skills when it pertains to footwork, ring IQ, punch placement, inside fighting, being able to fight backwards, forward, in the pocket, etc then I think Leonard is way more skilled than Manny and more skilled than Floyd. Leonard could do it all. Leonard is better moving around the ring while Floyd is better in the pocket. Leonard has better technique with his punches. Floyd tends to slap with his left hand. Floyd might be a better counter puncher. Leonard is a way better finisher than Floyd. I think Leonard commits more to the body than Floyd does. Inside fighting? Flip a coin. Ring IQ is subjective because of the level of competition. Who's to say that Floyd wouldn't have been subdued by Duran's pressure? In regards to Manny, Leonard is better in to many area's. Leonard is better on offense and defense. Leonard could out box you and if necessary, fight toe to toe. Also Leonard is more of a two handed fighter than Manny. Just my opinion.

 

PAC isn't worthy of ray Leonard's jockstrap.

 

Floyd isn't worthy of ray Leonard's scum between his toes.

 

And these numbers are the basis of your argument?
SRL comes from an era where you just get in the ring and fight?:rofl
We were able to think in the 80's you know.People were allowed to engage their brains.
I tried to kepp it civil but now I know you're having a laugh.Ward is better than Ray?:rofl I'll bet you think Broner would destroy Duran and Austin Trout would KO Mike McCallum.
Like I said,I'm a big fan of Floyd and I've converted big time to Ward.****,I even find myself warming to Chad Dawson but I don't have a problem with accepting there were better fighters around in times gone by.Floyd and Ward would flourish in most eras,but as I said,they won't have the career defining fights that Duran Leonard et al had.
Try and remember that fighters have always been allowed to engage their brain whilst fighting.And the 50's and 60's didn't really happen in black and white either.There actually were colours in those days.

 

and his best isn't good enough for Bradley.

 

Even if he was I would not say "way more" but then again Nostalgia always exaggerates fighters...

 

That's a far better and more accurate way of putting it.Skill wise there are several areas where Floyd tops Ray.My only argument is that Ray has a more complete package.Nostalgia does tend to cloud judgement so I tend to go on what I've actually seen.

 

The numbers just help the argument, and you know what they say. "Numbers dont lie." Even without them, its just VERY obvious Floyd is just on another level. This kid fights like a cyborg sent from out of space. And I dont care about career defining fights that SRL had. Im not talking about legacy, for SRL has a MUCH better legacy than Floyd. He just dont have any skills. And SRL didnt make any adjustments to little Duran. He had 15 rounds to realize he wasnt skilled enough to stand toe to toe, so he should have been started running. Facts dont lie.

 

I'm not even a big SRL fan but you cannot deny his greatness.

 

The reasons he didn't adjust in the first Duran fight was because for once,the opponent had got inside his head so Ray tried to fight toe to toe,which isn't the best idea against Duran.Ray Charles could see that all Ray did in the first fight was try to prove he had balls.It's one of the most important fights in his legacy because he did exactly that.
And numbers do lie occasionally.I've lost track of what I'm debating with you because I've said several times Floyd tops Ray in some departments.All I'm saying is Ray is the most complete fighter of the last 35 years and has the edge over Floyd.And when you start saying what you have about Pacquaio your credibility takes a one way bus journey to ridiculousville.
Remember,we were allowed to think in the 80's and people didn't really move as fast as the films from the old days suggest.