Sugar Ray Leonard-Thomas Hearns II

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  1. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I've been judging/polling a number of fights over the past week (trinidad-hoya, mosley-hoya I, whitaker-hoya, hagler-leonard, marquez-pacman II, johnson-dawson).

    Tonight I'll be judging Hearns-Leonard II...Fight is on youtube as always. Enjoy!
     
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  2. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Round 1: 10-9 Hearns...Close
    Round 2: 10-9 Hearns...Close
    Round 3: 10-8 Hearns...Clearly w/ KO
    Round 4: 10-9 Hearns...Close
    Round 5: 10-9 Leonard...Clearly
    Round 6: 10-9 Hearns...Close

    Halfway: 59-54 Hearns

    Round 7: 10-9 Leonard...Close
    Round 8: 10-9 Hearns...Clearly
    Round 9: 10-9 Leonard...Clearly
    Round 10: 10-9 Leonard...Clearly
    Round 11: 10-8 Hearns...Clearly w/ KO
    Round 12: 10-9 Leonard...Clearly

    Final: 115-111 Thomas Hearns
     
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  3. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had rounds 3,8,11 clearly for Hearns. Hearns knocked leonard down in 3 and 11.

    I had rounds 5,9,10,12 clearly for Leonard.


    Personally, I think Hearns won the fight clearly w/ the 2 KOs. However, suprisingly GREAT action entertaining fight...Both men were on the verge of getting KO'd multiple times but hung on. Leonard won 4 rounds very clearly although IMO theres no way he shuda won more than 6 rounds on any scorecard.
     
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  4. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also, couple things I wanted to point out...


    Marvin Hagler was one of the announcers and he was EXTREMELY BLATANTLY cheering hearns on...It was quite hillarious. He shouted at one point "C'mon Tommy. We gotta..."

    Also, how did the judges have scores of 113-112 and 112-112...How is that mathematically possible?
     
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  5. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There must of been 10-8 rounds om both sides.
     
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  6. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Funny enough, if you score all your close rounds at 10-9 and all your clear rounds at 10-8. The result would be 111-110 Hearns.
     
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  7. nickfoxx

    nickfoxx On The Nod Full Member

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    i'm the only person i know who agreed with tom kaczmarek
    i honestly think the commentating from gil clancy and tim ryan had a lot to do with biasing people toward thinking that hearns was a clear winner
    i think it was a very very close fight and tommy was the sentimental favorite for the crowd as well as the announcers (including marvin)
     
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  8. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A draw.
     
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  9. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Hearns clearly won that. Even Leonard admited that in an interview.
     
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  10. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    hearns won that fight quite clearly for me
     
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  11. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    I have this one at home, not seen it in a while, but it was clear to me that Tommy won the fight and comfortably. I didn't think it was particularly difficult to score, Hearns boxed him at a distance and landed more.
     
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  12. The Phenom

    The Phenom Pretty Handsome Full Member

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    Hearns 113-112.Great fight.
     
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  13. Soloth

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    I agreed with you..I saw it on live tv and have watched it many times since....great fight!
     
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  14. ipe

    ipe Member Full Member

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    Hearns got that one. If it was a 15 round fight, Leonard might have won it
     
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  15. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    The fight was a draw. Leonard did admit years later that he could give Hearns the rematch, but he didn't admit this right after the rematch:) Leonard said it was a draw, and then he later said he could give Hearns that fight. IMO, the fight was a draw. I'm being biased on this fight, and I don't care if any of you know this or not lol.
     
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