Sugar Ray Leonard v Terry Norris prime for prime

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You are wasting your time debating with silly fanboys because that is ALL they are.

They will make moronic claims like the 39 fight 34 year old Leonard was severely diminished when he fought Norris, but deny that the 66 fight 33 year old Hagler was in any way diminished when Leonard fought him.

They will make a huge song and dance about Leonard beating 4 ATG's, but conveniently forget ( or ignore ) the facts that Duran was a natural Lightweight, Hearns was badly weight drained as EVIDENCED by him NEVER attempting to make 147 again in 25 years of fighting, and Hagler was well past his best.

They will outright lie about the lay offs being due to damaged retina's, when in actual fact the dates of the operations, and the names of the surgeons who performed them are there for ALL to see in the public domain.

No, when you are dealing with fan boys common sense, logic, or reality doesn't come into it.

 

they've been brainwashed thru the years and with no capacity to think on their own they regurgitate the same stale phrases similar to what Flash put up last night

they cant make the obvious connection that Leonard is not a fighter that does well pushing the fight, like Duran, like hagler and that against a fighter like Norris, will lose every time

despite their fronts, I think they know they've been whipped this time around, the responses drying up, realizing they don't really have one fight to point to that Leonard ever resembled a Julian Jackson in effective aggression

Neither can they explain his numerous comebacks after his surgery. these are the same people that said he couldnt continue and was sidelined because of surgery despite the fact he was cleared to fight in 1982

as for Duran, I've already pointed out the article by Randy Gordon Ring correspondent, about how Duran ballooned in weight, then quickly took it off

NO fighter can expected to do well under those conditions. We saw that in the Eddie Mustafa Muhammad - Micheal Spinks fight.

After that, Eddie was thru

same with Roy Jones. Coming back down from heavyweight, he was visibly weakened then battered by Tarver in a winning effort but the punishment he took caught up with him, and reuced him to clubfighter status

none of these nuckleheads realize any of this and have no real feel for what goes on in the sport

Ray Leonard was okay, he brought some interest to the sport but he ducked way too many fighters including the obvious - Pryor, hagler, Nunn and gave us **** matches with Howard, Lalonde and on the way out hearns/Duran, barely marketable, by then retreads

i have to say, I was EXTREMELY disappointed in him and I'm glad norris came around to dispose of this imposter once and for all

And even more pleased by the way he went out - KO BY 5

 

was it something I said?

or was it when I kept quoting your knee jerk defensive aggressive fear driven threatening posts that you completely lost control of on a internet forum?? :rofl


:good

 

What makes you think I didnt see the fight? I saw the fight, he sucked !

In fact, both of them sucked

you're so full of ****, it comes out of your mouth

because as one poster stated last year, Angelo Dundee told his own man "you do know that you have a stiff in front of you"

but you man machine, you sure have a way of taking a negative, and turning it into a positive

typical fabrication from the srl fans, and they do make a doozy out of tall tales, probably their greatest talent

fortunately, I dont have to fall back on fairy tales like yourself

The speed of Norris was indeed legendary and his chin better than SRL

that's FACT and cant be denied by your or anyone else because head to head, Terry did all the damage. Leonard did none of it

The speed was Terry's

The power was Terry's

And of course, the fight was ALL Terry's

Ray had never faced anyone with terry's speed which left him confused and off balance

it was the speed that made the difference

this wasnt some stiff named Bonds that Ray was facing

ad what really impressed me about Norris is how decisively he beat him which is why I can rightfully say that the results of Norris - srl is a constant, meaning the results will never change

 

That will be the same Ring magazine that when rating the best 80 fighters EVER had Duran above Leonard will it? No doubt all you Leonard fan boys would be crying like little girls about the guys who rated them. :roll::nut

 

Did those same Ring contributors predict Norris would beat SRL, let alone embarrass him the way Rooster predicted?

You really are dense, otherwise you never would have walked into that one

make them miss, then make them pay I always say!

Leonard had his masters in speed but Norris had a PHD!

which is why I say that the results of Norris- srl is a constant

and if you still don't understand what that means, it means Terry beats 1991 version, 1989 version, 1987 version, 1984 version, and Larry Bonds version (1981)

 

Looks like Ring managed to do something right

but then how can you compare a prime record of 70-1 with 36-3-1?

 

Simple, it is called FANBOYISM.:rofl

 

I'd rate him higher if only he had wins over someone younger N faster like Nunn or Norris or even Camacho but he doesnt have a win over one speedster even

Leonard's top performances:

Duran one where he actually fought back (#2 I don't know WHAT you call THAT! something inspired on a playground perhaps?)

#2 - the Hagler fight

# the Hearns fight (1)

# 4 Oh Darn, there's nothing more!

 

Leonard 10 out of 10 times

 

Beating Benitez, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, in other words beating all the best fighters of his era who also happen to be all-time greats, being champion in 5 weight classes (let's say 4), only losing once while he was in his prime, I believe those are strong arguments to make him top 15 ATG. Add to this his great comeback in a losing bout to ko then undefeated Hearns.

 

you'd have to figure if he's having problems with Bonds & howard, he aint getting anywhere with Norris

Leonard had major problems with speedy boxers

 

maybe so but he sure couldnt get anywhere with Norris

Leonard had almost no opposition that had the speed to trouble him. That is, until he met Norris.

You should watch the films of Norris - srl over and over again Perry

srl was good but he couldnt box like Norris

Watch the way leonard pressures Norris in the second until Terry takes it up a notch and opens up. The heat was simply too great for Leonard and he had to back off. Within seconds, Leonard went from winning the round (this time based on an honest effort) to going into a full retreat

He did stage a comeback late in the round only to be dropped

Terry was just warming up when in the very next round, Terry opened him up with right-left to the body, then went thru Leonard's guard, and launched his head upright like E.T., and took him out of the fight once and for all.

Leonard was ruined for the night

Sugar had a real problem that night, and with Terry's speed, there was simply no defense for Terry's uppercut, and it caught him full force

There were other great moments that night, brilliant displays never seen since, but they are too numerous to mention - especially the 7th (OMG that was beautiful)

Leonard was probably wishing for the days of Kevin Howard, Larry Bonds, & Donny Lalonde. I think he would have done better against these types of opponents

He would have struggled, but won I think