Sugar Ray Leonard v Terry Norris prime for prime

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  1. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Terry would whip 1981 Bonds/Kalule/Hearns version

    and 1987 hagler version

    and any version between, before, or after

    And I can say that with confidence (unlike yourself with nothing to back you up )
     
  2. Flash24

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    Gentlemen, I rest my case. I didn't say anything about a fight itself however if S.Brown (past his prime) .J.Jackson, M.Mccalum caught Norris in his prime and knocked him out, I'm 100% positive prime Leonard does the same to him.
     
  3. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    You havent even begun your case

    all you did was display my side of the argument, knucklehead!

    on top of that, you try giving the impression you're doing all the thinking

    That's right, a one on one between the two fighters themselves. That's too much of a problem and scares the ***** out of you. You'd much rather avoid that subject altogether!

    instead you give some useless comparison opponents of which arent even common opponents, then try and try to conclude an outcome from that!

    someone here is not able to think clearly and that person is you
     
  4. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Actually , anyone who is OBJECTIVE can read what I wrote and understand my opinion. But you clearly have some personal dislike for Leonard, and it clearly shows in the words you write. But I realize you have an extreme dislike of Leonard and can't show any objectivity. So your a hopeless case . But anyone with clarity of thought , know that the nonsense you write is just that NONSENCE.
     
  5. Flash24

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    And yet you chastise me for saying that if Brown,Mccalum and Jackson stops Norris, Leonard definitely would. Did Norris fight Hearns? Kalule? Bond? 87'Hagler? What are you using to back up your comment. A time machine or a parallel universe?
     
  6. Titan1

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    Prime Ray still gives him a whupping. That inner knowledge.
     
  7. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    again, with no facts for backup

    that's not inner knowledge; that's wishful thinking
     
  8. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    of course you should be chastized, why should I not?

    I give an actual head to head comparison

    you give examples of opponents neither of who are common opponents, as evidence

    i'm supposed to disregard a h2h matchup because you didnt like the results?

    what the hell's wrong with you?

    If you want a compelling reason for a leonard win, tell me how he's going to get Norris to stop moving, to disregard clinches, disregard the Norris speed, disregard the knockdowns inflicted by Norris on Leonard not to mention the far too numerous occasions he had Ray hurt

    and give me a reason why Ray could not cause Terry to blink on the occasions he connected

    You have way too much against you

    Now I see why you're in no mood to look at any actual evidence and stay off this topic
     
  9. Flash24

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    Again how did Mccallum, Brown and Jackson stop him? IN HIS PRIME? And Leonard was far more capable then Jackson AND Brown and better Then Mccallum.
     
  10. redrooster

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    the only problem I see Norris having with any of the above opponents would be hearns

    If Norris had a chin problem, so did Hearns

    and so did Ray as evidenced by his meeting with Norris

    The others, Kalule, Bonds, - NO PROBLEM!

    the fact that you would even bring those two up, FOR SHAME!

    all you get is a :lol: for your efforts

    87 matchup between Hagler & Norris, let's see, who had the far greater speed between the two?

    which had no legs and nothing on his punches?

    This fight would no doubt resemble the sparring mismatch between Marvin and the Weaver triplets

    In other words, Marv gets embarassed

    If it were '82 Marvin, then you could start talking **** :smoke
     
  11. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    again, how does this relate to Norris - srl?

    and how does Sugar get Terry to stand still for him and not punch back?

    You're living in a fantasy world kid.

    The reason you keep changing the subject is because you're just blowing smoke

    While you use indirect comparisons, I use actual events - namely, the h2h match where fights are decided

    now go back to your crib and play with your ken and barbi dolls
     
  12. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mike McCallum?

    what a little jerkoff. you cant even get your facts rights

    Just for your info, I never saw Ray defend his 154 pound title once and you're saying Ray was better than Julian AND Mike?

    Even Brown made more defenses of his 147 pound title than Leonard

    I can see why the facts arent to your liking. Lies, fabrications, extrapolations, and emotional appeals are more your style
     
  13. redrooster

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    Flash 24 actually thinks McCallum and Terry faced off :lol:

    Maybe he expects me to believe more of his nonsense w/o question
     
  14. Flash24

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    Why the name calling? If were having an intelligent conversation. (but didn't realize until now that's beyond you) Should be healthy debate. But, of course since you don't really have a leg to stand on you resort to name calling. Yes I'm saying Leonard is better then Jackson and Mccallum. How many A.T.G'S they defeated at or close to their primes again? Not one. And I actually like both fighters but it is what it is. And unlike you Ican admit a mistake. Your absolutely right Norris never fought Mccallum. I was mixing him up with D.Curry for some reason. But Im sure of this. It would've been the same result. Mccallum eventually catching and stopping him. You cant teach glass chin.
     
  15. Flash24

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    And didn't realize Norris fought Hearns, Bonds, Kalule, or Hagler. Which YOU wrote Norris would defeat. So you can use indirect comparisons but no one else can? And how weak Norris chin was any of those fighters could starch him. Esp Hearns and Hagler.