Sugar Ray Leonard vs Hector Camacho

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  1. TheWorstEver(TWE)

    TheWorstEver(TWE) Active Member Full Member

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    Leonard got what he deserved really. He'd been disrespecting the sport & it's fans for years.
     
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  2. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It seemed inconceivable to many that a fighter whose best days were at 130 would be able to beat any version of SRL. Camacho was no spring chicken himself, and had struggled with an even older version of Duran. The logic followed that if a 45 year old Duran was able to handle Camacho, it shouldn't be much problem for a 40 year old Leonard.

    There was also the perception that Leonard would not take a risk on a fight that he could lose, and had hand-picked Camacho as a minimal risk opponent.

    Obviously, in hindsight it was a complete mismatch the other way.
     
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  3. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Yes, lookin at it from that angle I get it. Suppose it's happened so many times in boxing. Those that thought Ali had a chance against Holmes and Tyson v Lewis. And to think how long Leonard was actually out of the ring when he faced Hector, a lot longer than Ali and Holmes had been.
     
  4. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Momus summed it up perfectly. Remember too that Norris won his next 9 fights or so post SRL and proved himself a sharp world class operator. Camacho hadn't won a fight or significance for 7 years at 20 pounds south.
     
  5. DavidBarnes

    DavidBarnes Member banned Full Member

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    Boxing fans are the most disrespectful in all of sports. The way they call fighters bums and cowards when they are risking their life for our entertainment. Boxing fans deserve nothing.
     
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  6. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Love it!!! Kudos
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Calm down Snowflake!
     
  8. thanosone

    thanosone Love Your Brother Man Full Member

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    Did Leonard Hate Camacho? He had no business fighting him or anyone else. He was shot to ****.
     
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  9. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member Full Member

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    He had four millions reasons i reckon. Mad money considering he hadn't fought for so long and lost the last time he did.

    He would have thought he was going to win i dare say. Who knows where that would have led......
     
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  10. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Camacho was shot too tbh.
     
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  11. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But not as shot as Ray was. Camacho was not a top fighter anymore or ranked too high but he was active and in shape, ad Ray was not in fighting shape at all. He would have lost to many guys that day. Ray taking this fight was Ray not realizing where he was which was not really a boxer anymore. I think the problem with Ray in his career later on ( maybe after Lalonde) is that he thought he was a bigger puncher than he really was. He could hit, but Hearns and Duran hit harder naturally. So he felt Hector was a light puncher so he could possibly use his own speed and power to win a decision and become important again. I get the feeling he picked Hector because he thought he could not be hurt and that he would be the puncher and it would be showcased. Duran against Hector? Duran had the punch and was active.
     
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  12. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People were still p1ssing in Leonard's pocket about his capabilities long after he wasn't actually capable.

    In about 1995 there was talk of him fighting Vinny Pazienza and Ring magazine stated (and I'm quoting from memory) that aside from Roy Jones and maybe Nigel Benn (their words) Leonard had no-one to fear from 154 to 168, which was total bullsh1t. Norris was still a world champion and he'd already kicked Rays butt years before and there are a dozen guys I could name off the top of my head that would have smashed him at that point between those weight classes.

    Great fighter for sure but he wasn't superman as Camacho so painfully showed.
     
  13. steve1990

    steve1990 Active Member Full Member

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    No speed no power no chin and loads of ring rust. Leonard really let his ego get to him here. Camacho wasn't the same fighter that he once was but he was still very active. Also the Leonard fight lead him to one last payday against Delahoya
     
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  14. Lenny

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    should have put this on the other thread. Never thought Camacho had that left in the tank. Almost one hundred fights? Knocked down only once or twice? I watched his big breakthrough against Bazooka Limon. Outdoors. Camacho's corner in the shade. Limon not so lucky. He was a bit "clownish" but could fight. Underrated in my opinion. I have never seen the Rosario fight that is mentioned often and changed his boxing style completely . Against SRL I felt that he would be overwhelmed by strength and that Leonard could match his speed.
     
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  15. Balder

    Balder Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Duran was robbed in his fight with Camacho. He easily won it. He was 45 and Leonard 40. Goes to show who really was the greatest of the fab 4. Leonard getting Ko'ed by his hubris and ego was on of the best things in boxing.

    I became a much greater fan of Camacho after he demolished that cherry picker Leonard.