Sugar Ray Leonard vs. Mike McCallum

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  1. SixesAndSevens

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    I would agree on McCallum > Duran at MW, but it's not like Mike is Carl Williams... Duran will give a tough fight.
     
  2. JohnThomas1

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    The thread is junior middleweight. Against the grain, I'd minorly favor Duran. I have a lesser view of McCallum than some.
     
  3. SixesAndSevens

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    Meant JMW/SWW, typo. The fight could go either way, but I feel like McCallum would utilize his skills well enough to eek out a win. Good combination of being the bigger man/having a well made set of skills.

    Then again, I used to think even HIGHER of McCallum than I do now. "Best Middleweight h2h" lol :sisi1:sisi1:sisi1
     
  4. JohnThomas1

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    Yeah i think it could be close. I just like the freshest version of 154 pound Duran to slip home.

    Ah that's right, it was you hahaha. I'd forgotten.
     
  5. SixesAndSevens

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    I've evolved... Just a little bit.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    You are moving in the right direction mate.
     
  7. Mark Anthony

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_McCallum
    Their reach looks similar here:
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    Name me one fight where McCallum's opponent didn't have a shorter reach than him, Graham's reach came closest and his arms were very long.
     
  8. Mark Anthony

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    McCallum had more savvy than Ray.
     
  9. Mark Anthony

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    McCallum was a master boxer, Williams was nowhere near elite and far easier to hit than McCallum and had a far weaker chin.
     
  10. SixesAndSevens

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    I'm talking about size, here. People were talking about a reach disparity between Mike and Duran/Leonard (74 - 66/71), and I said, "It's not like he's Carl Williams" (84 inch reach).
     
  11. Mark Anthony

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    72-84 compared to 66-78 plus the fact that Duran wasn't as explosive as Tyson after he moved up to 154.
     
  12. SixesAndSevens

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    Repeating that McCallum had a reach of 78 doesn't make it true, Boxrec lists it at 74 1/2, and you can see in all of his fights that he obviously doesn't have Tommy Hearns' arms stitched onto his sockets. I also agree that McCallum would beat Duran at 154, but it wouldn't be some one way train.
     
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  13. Mark Anthony

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    What reach does boxrec state that Herol Graham's was?
     
  14. SixesAndSevens

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    77 inches
     
  15. Mark Anthony

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    Exactly, you can see that Graham did not have a longer reach than McCallum when they fought in 1987:
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