Sugar Ray Leonard vs Sugar Shane Mosley

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  1. garymcfall

    garymcfall Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At welterweight, over 12 rounds, how does this play out?
     
  2. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

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    I'd probably say SRL takes a hard fought, but comfortable decision.
     
  3. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard boxes to score points and stay out of danger and almost certainly gets a UD.

    Things will be interesting, though, when the fight is up close and personal. The fists will be flying.
     
  4. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Why not 15? Those of you that never were around during the days of the 15 rounder missed out. And I am beginning to think that is most on theses posts. Leonard by ko in 9.:vikingAlso, it was nice to be legal to drink beer at 18. Awwww, the days:drink:drink:drink:drink
     
  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    In his prime, Leonard never avoided the danger in his fights. There always came a point where he went for the ko.The man had his piccadilloes, but IN HIS PRIME, he was all fighter. Btw, he beats the **** out of Oscar and would make Oscar go alldefensive to try and survive or feign injury and quit like against Bernard.
     
  6. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard was a cracking puncher at welter, but do you think he could accumulate enough in 9 rounds to KO Mosley? The only time I remeber Shane being danger of a KO was against Forrest, who is a much bigger man than Leonard and has a tremendous advantage in leverage because of the way he could punch down on Mosley.

    No doubt, I think Leonard would mess up DLH, but I also think Leonard and crew would be wary of tangling inside with Mosley, as both Mosley's left hook and overhand right are wicked weapons. I think the strategy would be to play matador first, frustrate and weaken Mosley before coming inside late.
     
  7. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think if Leo. could fight inside w/ Duran, he can w/ Shane, who I like a lot as a fighter (please ko Maywether, KO maywether, KO Maywether). Leonard was just great, great, great at welter and I think welter was not Shane's best. I alsi think Sugar Ray would be the hardest hitter Shane ever fought and just would be too much fighter for Shane to deal with. Btw. Burger Chef ruled also. Let's also relive the decade of Led For The Head.
     
  8. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    I honestly believe Leonard would clearly control matters, sizing both matters ad his opponent up shrewdly, and play the organ grinder to Shane's ******.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    As much as I love Shane (nearly as much as Larry Merchant does) and hate Ray, Mosley doesn't have the feet to keep up with Leonard, and if there is an exchange I feel Leonard would get the better of it. I'll give Mosley the benefit of the doubt and say he survives til the end.

    Leonard wide PTS over 12.
     
  10. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Shane has literally no advantage in this fight that i can see, ray is faster, much better mover, hits just as hard, has as good a chin and is a superior boxer.

    Mosely chin is top notch so he sees the final bell but drops a wide UD
     
  11. Rubber Warrior

    Rubber Warrior Resident ESB Soothsayer Full Member

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    For my money Ray hits harder.
     
  12. The Wanderer

    The Wanderer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Zepplin forever, baby. :good

    Ok, lets split the difference. I'll admit, I was mostly thinking of a post-Duran Leonard, who was a bit more careful in sizing up his opponents and more likely to use tricks and skills than to just go in and blaze away like he did with Duran I, Andy Price, etc. I probably should do more to review Leonard's earlier style before commenting further, because I've mostly stuck to the megafights and am just not a fan of Leonard.

    So, earlier Leonard would probably mix it up more and has a better chance of scoring the KO, while a later Leonard is more likely to box, win points, and go for the kill if he senses vulnerability late or if Shane slips up and does something stupid or otherwise leaves himself exposed. That Leonard would have at least thought twice about taking on an opponent where the other guy is strongest if there is an easier way.

    Either way, I definitely agree that as much as I love Shane (and he's my 2nd favorite active fighter) that Shane would be in over his head and has very little, if any, real chance to win. Sound good?

    ... or I could just say what Stevebhoy said and save myself some typing, since I feel about the same. Pretty much the only advantage I can think of for Mosley is that he's a betetr brawler, everything else goes to Leonard or is close to equal.
     
  13. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd have no argument with anyone stating that, he is certainly a better finisher than mosely (or pretty much anyone in boxing history). I think punching power is probably fairly close though. His chin is probably better than mosely as well unlike what i stated but i wanted to give shane some props
     
  14. The Morlocks

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    I think Shane is a terrific fighter, but just think leonard was a porsche in the welter division. One of the alltime geratest welters. Also in 1980 when Leonard was around his best, both Bonzo Bonham and Lennon died. Dark days indeed for my senior year.
     
  15. ricardoparker93

    ricardoparker93 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    SRL is all wrong for Mosley, who's defence against the jab is poor. Shane will have his moments but the bigger fighter with the longer reach takes this one via wide decision. If Vernon Forrest could outbox Shane then Leonard does it without doubt.