I always heard he was undefeated as amateur, but here is some different info by Boxrec: http://boxrec.com/media/index.php/Sugar_Ray_Robinson#Amateur_Achievements
It's been a known fact that he lost those bouts. NEW YORK GOLDEN GLOVES (Represented Salem-Crescent A.C.) 1938 118-lb. junior Jan 29 Thomas Polizzi, Good Sheherd A. C. ..........W KO 2 Feb 4 Bobby Ruffin, Bennet A.C. ..................….....W PTS 3 Feb 16 Pasquale Pesca, St. Nicholas Arena .......…..L PTS 3 Apr 11 Ed Cappelli, New York ...........................…W KO 1 (Metropolitan AAU Boxing Championship)
It has been proven on here a while back that he did indeed lose fights as an amatuer, no shame there. However he does state in the video 'Pound for Pound' that he went something like 100 + fights before he lost the first time. Maybe he was getting a little forgetful
I'm not going to have people tell me who the greatest is. I would suppose to be someone with less than 19 losses.
you say it sarcastically, but hhascup is a Factmaster General. Prepare to be ****ed up with epic knowledge when he logs back on
This is akin to me going into a bar and calling out a 25yr old george foreman............with one hand tied behind my back
Billy Graham beat him when they were both very young. In a book called "POUND FOR POUND" A Biography of Sugar Ray Robinson, by Herb Boyd with Ray Robinson II, it states the following: Sugar at thirteen stood about five feet eight inches and weighed around eighty-five pounds. Lean as a whippet, he won all his fights except one. His one loss was to a tough Irish kid named Billy Graham, who would one day be a top welterweight contender. Although they never fought as adults, they had several common opponents, including Carmen Basilio and Kid Gavilan, and Graham held his own against both of them. Sugar's early neighborhood bouts didn't mean much in terms of money or prestiage, but he began to turn heads with his ability after he defeated a boy who was considered the best in his weight division. Boxing was now Sugar's passion, and it took up most of his time. His interest intensified when a classmate at Cooper Junior High School, at 116th and Madison Avenue, convinced him to stop by the Salem Crescent gym, located in the basement of the Salem Methodist Church on Seventh Avenue at 129th Street.
Amateur Achievements Amateur Record: 85-2 with 69 KOs (40 in the first round) April 11, 1938 won the New York Metropolitan AAU Open Boxing Championship at bantamweight vs Ed Cappelli. Golden Gloves Titles won in 1939: New York Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions at featherweight vs. Armand Dascenza Intercity Golden Gloves Tournament at featherweight vs. Tony Ancona New York Daily News Golden Gloves Tournament at featherweight vs. Louis Valentine Golden Gloves Titles won in 1940: New York Golden Gloves Tournament of Champions at lightweight vs. Jimmy Butler Intercity Golden Gloves Tournament at lightweight vs. Tony Ancona New York Daily News Golden Gloves Tournament at lightweight vs. Andy Nonella View: Sugar Ray Robinson's Golden Gloves Record
I defer to hhascup,as to Ray Robinson's Amateur record. But this I can state for sure. After Robinson's amazing amateur career and NY Golden Gloves titles, he was considered a SURE coming champion in the pro ranks. For example-In 1939-40,I as a youngster with my dad and uncle went to the Golden Gloves elimination card at Ridgewood Grove in NY. In the last bout, Ray Robinson was helping out in the corner of the Salem-Crescent boxing club, which he represented when he won the Golden Gloves Title the previous year. He already was so highly touted,as a SURE pro champion, that there was a line at the end of the bout,waiting to shake his hand. I, my dad and uncle were on that line, and i recall that the guy in front of me ' said to Ray,"Ray when you become a champion, buy me a drink ", Robinson shot back, "when I do, I'll buy you two ". He was rhyming ,way before Ali !!!
