Sugar Ray Robinson--Is and will always be the Greatest Fighter Ever

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Have you seen the Monroe loss? I didn't know it existed on film. I've never seen the Seales draw either. I felt he deserved the decisions over Watts & Antoufermo and I scored the Leonard fight 114-114.

 

Godfather II > Citizen Kane

 

SRR greatest boxer of all time. Goodfellas/ Pulp Fiction greatest films of all time. :deal

 

The size of Jake's noggin never ceases to amaze me. He has a freakin' pumpkin for a head, no wonder he never went down.

 

I am not doubting the mans speed, power, reflexes, balance, or mental understanding of fighting, but if ANYONE walked out of a modern boxing gym fighting like that? Your trainer would have some explaining to do.

You guys can pontificate all day about how SRR was the best of fighter ever. I will ALWAYS call BS because the science of Boxing was crude and undeveloped at the time although the raw materials (fighters) were of a much higher quality.

It ain't religion and SRR ain't the Messiah. In his time though? He was by far the best to do it.

 

SRR the best. Fought the best in their prime at times while SRR was past his prime himself and still looked sensational. Floyd and Manny are great in their own right, but will never be on his level or even close since they haven't fought each other to begin with. SRR today destroys the WW division along with Floyd and Pacman in it unifying WW all the way to MW, wins and might lose some at SMW with trilogies with Bute, Froch, and Kessler, and it's 50-50 with fights vs. Pascal and Dawson. Let's be real SRR was still fast and good enough at LHW and was basically schooling Maxim until SRR gassed himself out, alot like Mosley does today. And this was a past his prime SRR former WW fighting for the LHW belt. Floyd should be ashamed for comparing himself to SRR and he's not fooling anyone except the *****s.

 

They would have some explaining to do...as people would be asking how the **** do I get my fighters to fight like that.

Robinson wasnt even a pure boxer anyway, pretty much he is the benchmark for the modern boxer-puncher...A lot of the time he put more emphasis on the latter, he did have some issues with technically sound boxer types who could take a punch..especially over the shorter distances.

This talk of boxing skillsets of today being superior is pure rubbish. Half the top fighters around today have major technical flaws and the quality of fighter around today is certainly not better than when Robinson was rolling around.

Personally I have had other fighters no1 more than I have had Robinson...but he has as good an argument as anyone.

 

Sugar Ray Robinson = The Greatest Pound for Pound Fighter who ever lived, PERIOD!!!
Followed by the great Harry Greb.

 

uhh no he wont

respectfully of course

 

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I've heard the case being made by more than one knowledgeable person that he was a dark horse (ironically) in the short-list conversation, Pete. :smooch (****, that's a gay emoticon, wow, regret using it in hindsight, I just thought it had a good smarmy quality that fit)

 

His achievements speak for themselves, his record is as impressive as it gets.

I dont know a hell of a lot about his opponents and I generally as a rule rank the guys from the turn of the century pretty harshly because of this. Even then I rank him and Gans pretty high.

He is at least borderline top10..most have him well inside these days.

 

A-side meth.

The american GIs must have brought them from the Philippines. Remember the Colt .45 became the official sidearm of the US Army because of the inability of the 38 to stop an amok pinoy with kris sword.

Definitely A-side meth.

 

First time I agree with you Baldie!

The classic fighters are way overrated.

Their athleticism is beyond doubt because you acn not fight more than 3-4 times a month without that. However, you have to take into consideration that many of those fights are against week-end fighters, who were there for the extra money it would bring to the table aside from their regular jobs as fireman, gardener, driver, etc. Basically most fights are elite boxer against a week-end boxer.

The technique is horrendous to watch as well. It is like watching the early version of Caballero, both hands way too low. Watching the Lamotta fight, against a short fighter, SRR was getting tag by jumping, crosses all the time, and in today's fighting technique, simple guard position would have prevented that.


Had they been fighting today, I am sure that they would have adjusted their techniques as well with good coaching, or trainers. However, no one is invincible when you are facing a fighter who is equally trained and dedicated. A hearns vs. SRR would probably be classic as both fighters love to fight and throw bunches.

I have seen a few classic black and white fights and the most common thing is that they don't emphasize defense. You will see fighters swinging wildly against each other like there is no tomorrow. Even Pancho villa was like that.

15 rounds championship fights are way overrated as well. How many times I have seen in the 70's and 80's fighters who were just swinging but not hurting each other because both are so exhausted. It becomes more of a contests of stamina rather than boxing skill.