Sugar Ray Robinson | Techniques & Strategies

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  1. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    A lot of people say boxing has evolved since the days of Ray Robinson, but how many fighters today use these techniques? Pac and Loma do Ray`s foot feints and Canelo is highly skilled, but most fighters today do not have this offensive savvy at all.
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  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boxing has regressed if anything.
     
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  3. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    I don't think a lot of people say the technique has evolved. Ray Robinson was quite a modern fighter. The 40s and 50s were the peak as far as talent pool is concerned according to the Mike Silver argument. People dote on strength and conditioning and diet though.
     
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  4. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    As a side note, British boxing peaked slightly earlier. According to the in depth historical pieces sited in Born to Box, British Boxing peaked in 1933, with over 20,000 registered shows being held in that year. America peaked around the 40s to 50s like you said.

    And SRR would obviously be dominant today. He had every intangible along with his style and technique to succeed in any era.
     
  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    I listened to 3 minutes of that and the guy doing the video is a numbskull.
     
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  6. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I only watched the first 90 seconds but I didn't think Robinson looked extraordinary or did anything especially impressive in that footage. If anything, he comes off looking like an imprecise puncher who's not making much use of his speed and length advantages.
     
  7. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    What could, or should, he have done differently?
     
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  8. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think it’s because all the great trainers are dying
     
  9. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    I guess I was just surprised by how inaccurate and seemingly weak a lot of his punches were. The man is obviously a great puncher with fast feet but I didn't think that this footage really did him any favors. LaMotta was able to close the distance a few times without paying any price for it, and he countered Robinson a few times when dropped his punches and lingered a little too long with his hands down (probably the most obvious thing Robinson should have done differently).

    He also crossed or closed his feet a few times, I think, but he probably knew that LaMotta lacked the foot speed to make him pay for that.

    That was my initial impression of that specific excerpt, anyway.
     
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  10. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    I believe all the great trainers have died!
     
  11. SambaKing1993

    SambaKing1993 Don't do it Zachary! Full Member

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    Kevin Rooney is still alive, @Fergy
     
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  12. Bronze Tiger

    Bronze Tiger Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nacho Beristain ?
     
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  13. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    That`s why you should have watched the part about how short his hooks were compared to today`s fighters.
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    0:10 Jabbing while Moving Laterally 2:05 Off Angle Left Hook 5:02 Stepping Feints 7:06 Short & Tight Left Hook 9:31 Arm Control 11:58 Leaning the Upper Body Forward
     
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  15. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Loma and Usyk have that amazing Ukranian team, Loma`s dad is an excellent and very detailed coach.