Sugar Ray Robinson v James Toney :Light heavy .?

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  1. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Toney proved that he could be very good even at 217 pounds, enough to me. Robinson would not beat toney at 175
     
  2. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    We are talking about a 175 fatty version of robinson ,taking in count that toney was always fast with his hands it is not crazy to think that he would be faster than a fat version of robinson
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Robinson wouldn't be a fatty. He almost won the 175 title at 157 1/2 pounds. He's good enough and smart enough not to add unnecessary bulk.
     
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  4. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    He lost , maxim actually was not a great thing, ray got gassed because the hot and BECAUSE HE HAD to run all the fight in chicken mode obviously because he was facing a bigger guy.there are weight classes for a reason my friend john
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

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    Toney was no different at light heavyweight than at any other weight. He got robbed twice against Griffin.
     
  6. JohnThomas1

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    Ray was comfortably outboxing Maxim, a very good 175'er. Put him in normal conditions and particularly over 12 rounds and he'd be fine particularly against Toney. It's a competitive match i reckon.
     
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  7. Longhhorn71

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    These were the guys Joey Maxim was tangling with in the late 40's, early 50's:
    Joe Walcott, Bob Satterfield, Jimmy Bevins, Gus Lesvenich, Freddie Mills, Ezzard Charles (2), SRR, Archie Moore (3), & Floyd Patterson.

    Losing to the very top guys, but always competitive. Beat both SRR & Floyd Patterson, and the lessor fighters.
     
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  8. Webbiano

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    Assuming we don't give Toney any chance to rehydrate, I'd give Robinson a chance. It would make more sense to make this matchup at middle or super middle though.
     
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  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Patterson was very green when he fought maxim, he was around 19 and was not fully developed phisically, a prime patterson was a "cruiser'" not a lhw. Prime patterson would destroy maxim without a doubt
     
  10. Longhhorn71

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    Patterson vs Maxim. Gotta go with what actually happened in the ring when their paths crossed. All the rest is just speculation.
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Ok i hope then that you pick trevor berbick over Ali. No excuse nothing
     
  12. RockyJim

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    Love it!!!
     
  13. Longhhorn71

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    Good points.
     
  14. Vince Voltage

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