Sugar ray Robinson vs floyd mayweather?

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  1. Joe_fraizer's_left_hook

    Joe_fraizer's_left_hook New Member banned Full Member

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    i think sugar ray dominates this one with his high work rate and amazing cardio and determination! But what are your thoughts on this bout?
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Hearns and SRR are about as bad a matchup as Floyd could face. I still think he is to good to get dominated by just about anyone. I would favor Ray 8-4 or so just the same. I think Floyd could be one of those guys who could adapt very easily in the 15 rd era, but still difficult for me to envision how he would adapt and fare in rds 13-15.
     
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  3. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    After about 8-10 rounds of domination, SRR picks the round he stops him in. The thing with Floyd is he only had 40 fights in 18 years of healthy boxing and he didn't test himself enough imo. He wasn't a risk taker. And I'm not just going to give him another 40-70 more fights, fighting once a month against the tough guys in their era and assume he is going to be successful. You have to put in the activity and earn that. To match Floyd with SRR is a mismatch. If anything for me, Pac earned that not Floyd
     
  4. DJN16

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    Yeah it's really about styles. Floyd gives Sugar a good boxing match early on but Robinson had it all, plus was tougher than Floyd, stronger, higher punch volume and could knock you out with either hand with any shot. SRR is still the closest boxer to ever being near 'perfect.' Over 12 rounds Floyd maybe survives just I reckon. His pot shotting wouldn't work against Sugar.

    Hearns stylistically is a nightmare for Floyd. I don't see Floyd making the 10th.

    Yet I reckon SRR stops Hearns around 8 rounds.

    No two fights are the same in boxing.
     
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  5. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    A Super Featherweight Vs probably the best Welterweight ever. Oh dear.
     
  6. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he just got booted for matching May with every fighter out there, I'm assuming May vs Foster at 175 was coming next
     
  7. Bukkake

    Bukkake Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you know that Pac is more deserving of a match with SRR... when you barely follow contemporary boxing?
     
  8. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Floyd does not have the output to be competitive.After a few rounds he goes into survival mode and might succeed at just that.
     
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  9. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You misunderstood me. Meant Pac in other eras for his activity and resume
     
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  10. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Feel like Floyd is way underrated on this site...maybe others know more then I do but I really don’t see anyone within his weight range dominating him. Maybe Hearns gives him a tough fight just because I don’t know how Floyd handles that reach and power. SRR arguably #1 p4p against Floyd who is arguably a #1 p4p imo. Best defensive fighter ever and I don’t really think it’s close Going against maybe the most complete fighter ever. Think Floyd could outpoint him but wouldn’t be surprised by a SRR KO either. Floyd will probably be more appreciated with time.
     
  11. Grapefruit

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    I'd pick several greats to beat Floyd, but if I'm going to be honest here I don't see him beating Floyd.
     
  12. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is no speculation necessary here. Robinson dominates Floyd, and likely stops him.

    Floyd at Welter vs someone like Oba Carr is honestly a more plausible fight that might go either way. But, versus the greatest Welterweight (and likely fighter) of all time, Floyd stands no rational chance.
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

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    This is an imaginary hypothetical fight....even if there is an overwhelming one sided consensus, it is still all speculation.
     
  14. JC40

    JC40 Boxing fan since 1972 banned Full Member

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    I like to base my picks on how a fighter has fared against similar type opponents.

    Who in the hell did Floyd fight that is anyway comparable to a prime Sugar Ray Robinson is what I would like to know. Floyd didn’t fight one prime great fighter let alone someone like Robbie.

    Elderly fighters who had absorbed bad beatings previously like Mosley, Cotto and the previously ktfo Manny PAC are nowhere near the level of say the Robinson from the Tommy Bell fight to the last La Motta fight.

    I dunno how these young peeps get the evidence that Floyd could even compete with a prime Robinson from the evidence of his career. He just didn’t fight prime, great fighters let alone a killer like Robinson.

    Cheers All.
     
  15. TBI

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    I do think Floyd doesn't get a fair shake alot from boxing history buffs, and appreciation for him will grow over time as previously stated, but please. Dude didn't even want to fight Tszyu or Williams, or prime Mosley or many others available and willing.

    I think he's competitive early, unraveling midway due to the pressure, volume, and accuracy of Robinson. Looks about as competitive as Floyd vs Judah did early on. Judah came out strong, stung him, but Floyd became more dominant as the rounds progressed. Same thing here. He makes Robinson miss, boxes well, looks his equal, but as the rounds go on, there is a separation.

    Robinson is in full control and stops Floyd sometime after the 10th.
     
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