Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Marvin Hagler, who wins this fight at 160?

Robinson for me

 

Robinson wins. Haglers a great fighter, but robby's greater. great, close fight though.

 

a prime hagler would beat a prime 150lb robinson.
a 160lb ezzard charles would also beat robinson.
robinson is the best fighter ever but not at middle

 

I don't think one fight would settle this one. It's a case of the best MW ever vs. the best ever, period. I've got to give Hagler the edge, as he is the natural MW. But it's a slight edge. I think it's just as likely that Robbo, at the top of his game, can pull out the upset. Hagler would win more often than not, but either way, it comes down to a hard fought decision. The viewers definitely get their money's worth.

 

Robinson via decision.

 

i actually like Hagler in this one as the old adage goes

'a good big man beats a good little man'

 

a good ,big ,nasty,frightening, concrete chinned hard as nails git is even better

 

best desricption of hagler ever Turpinr

 

yeah i'm really hugh Mcilvanney

 

Fight of the decade in ANY decade.

 

I lean Hagler here, primarily because part of SRR's ability as a puncher and finisher is nulled because of Hagler's chin.

Decision could go either way, but SRR would have to fight significantly better to overcome his disadvantages in strength and durability. Against a peak Hagler, I have to go with the more proven at the weight. By close UD.

 

Hagler would have a real problem with peak MW Robinson, who was Monroe times Leonard squared. He wouldn't beat Robinson before 1980 or after 1982 in my opinion. However, take any MW Robinson and throw him in with 1980-1982 Hagler, and my money's on the black guy --I mean the bald guy.

Robinson hit hard enough to command respect from anyone -including Hagler who had a chin like a curbstone. He had skill and athleticism, experience and instincts. His mistake would be the same that he committed against Fullmer and Basilio: He'd engaged Hagler too much. Hagler was stronger than both in my opinion. There aren't many MWs who I see as superior to him in terms of that physical presence... arguably Dick Tiger, maybe Roldan. Not many others. Hagler was also superior to both Fullmer and Basilio as a boxer. He was, at his best, a boxer-puncher.

Hagler, who I would argue peaked earlier than most believe, was also complex. Complex fighters have an innate ability to give fits to instinctive savants and technicians. Savants (like Jones) and technicians (like Duran that night) rely on probability. They read their man and then react via a textbook or an innovation... but they react to an expected set of stimuli. Hagler could switch positions in the middle of a combination and did so smoothly. Complicated stuff. He was a complicated boxer-puncher who applied physical and psychological pressure.

Add to that his LaMotta strength, better power, longer reach, and comparable fundamentals, and Robinson loses by a couple of points over 15.

 

summed it up perfect execpt from the fact taht a prime hagler took away an opponents jab by completly shutting out and hardly getting hit with it

 

Pick 'em.