Sugar Ray Robinson

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by withoutwire, Dec 29, 2013.


  1. BeerGut

    BeerGut Member Full Member

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    Would you like me to rub your belly as well?

    You go to youtube and type in Sugar Ray Robinson and someone like Bernard Docusen, Charlie Fusari, Cliff Beckett, Sammy Angott (there are others)

    There are even clips from when he was amateur.
     
  2. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. spinner

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  4. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thank you spinner !!
    You're a big hearted guy!
    Im looking over the card on boxrec and will repeat im 95 percent sure i was there.
    Im 100 percent sure I saw your buddy vs Bobby Czyz at Ice world Totowa NJ the following year.
    I can still hear Lou Duva screaming at Bobby...The body...The body..when he had you bud in trouble. That fight ended early and i hope Manual is ok these days??
     
  5. spinner

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    That fight was the end for Manuel's pro boxing days. He just wasn't ready for world class fighters like Czyz and did not have a Duva, a Paddy Flood, or an Al Certo in his corner. I honestly feel that with better training and management he could have gone further in his pro career and ultimately have reached the top 20 (maybe even higher). But it wasn't to be for the genuinely humble guy from NY.

    I move out of Brooklyn a few years later and lost touch with the old pals so I don't know how they are doing today. I wish them (and you) the best.
     
  6. spinner

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    If I recall correctly from past readings the designation "best P4P" was invented because of SRR and it was during his career. Therefore, in answer to the OP I would say his great reputation did not come after his career was over but during his boxing days.

    While he got many accolades, my favorite remains Bert Sugar's words: "Robinson could deliver a knockout blow going backward".
     
  7. burt bienstock

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    Cool, but my favorite description was of Harry Greb.One observer said
    after watching Greb fight, " he reminds me of a man, who just burst out
    of his straightjacket "...
     
  8. LittleRed

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    It's in a collection of classic ring articles. I'll check it out later, to see who wrote it.
     
  9. SLAKKA

    SLAKKA Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Goodbye Brooklyn boys!
    Lets stop now spinner or im gonna be ballin worse than Sammy Davis Jr
     
  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    cheers burt I also rate Charles highly at those weights and indeed number one at 175lb.
     
  11. ETM

    ETM I thought I did enough to win. Full Member

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    The way Robinson set Turpin up that night was a thing of beauty. Dipping low almost mimicking Turpin's style and throwing right hands to the body. He set the table early and when he needed it he caught Randy with a right cross to the head. That was a right before the one that dropped Turpin that started the ball rolling.