Sugar Ray Robinson's Perfect Punches - TECHNIQUE BREAKDOWN

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He was seamless.
     
  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    https://technicalcombat.com/2016/09/27/ali-vs-terrell-whats-my-name/

    The latest if you didn't catch it.
     
  3. TCreturns

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    Robinson set the punch up going forward in a straight line.
     
  4. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Perfect? He was wide open half the time, throwing those swings.
     
  5. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Technically perfect no.But speedy, explosive and powerful
     
  6. Eastpaw

    Eastpaw Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nobody ever mentions how telegraphed Robbie's punches were, this is the first time someone is stating this.
     
  7. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The commentator talked about that, you never see Robinson open up with those swings if his opponent was in any position to fire back, it wasn't ever a factor because of that. They weren't swings in that just before they landed he cut in his elbow sharply making impact quicker and more deadly. He also changed those swings in mid air depending on what became open along their way, as he said they often started low and went high, or started high and went low and this worked because of the speed of Robinson's punches.
     
  8. Senya13

    Senya13 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not 100% sure about that (it'd take a lot of lookups, which I don't have time for now), but I'd guess he was knocked down so many times (relatively, of course) exactly because he was wide open so often throwing those punches. On video, he doesn't use angles or levels, he doesn't use feints, etc, nothing to avoid a straight punch counter, he depends only on delivering his punch quicker than his opponent.
     
  9. TCreturns

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    NO... Robbie is not open! Head is down low below the opponents under arms and his body is a small target after stepping in and leaning forward.
     
  10. redrooster

    redrooster Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    looks great. Redrooster is back!
     
  11. TCreturns

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    The problem with angles is that it leaves the body wide open for left hooks and wide right hook to the body -furthermore circling right as you advocate facilitates walking into the left hook, not a good.
     
  12. Senya13

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    Angles allow you to get in position, where a counter is difficult or impossible. In most examples on the video, Robinson stays front to front with opponent, or intentionally moving to the front after, originally, he had his side toward opponent (narrow target). He's depending on his handspeed and footwork to get his punch land first, instead of combining defense and offense. Overconfidence, possibly, but it happened way too often, where you see him fighting like a typical slugger (very-very fast one) rather than boxer-puncher.
     
  13. TCreturns

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    But you can't get to the angle without walking into a punch. That's what Robbie knew or this genius of SSR. Kenny Weldon produced evander Holyfield with the second highest points right behind Ali. Making him the second best heavyweight atg. The secret to holyfields success like SSR was to put hit lead foot in between the his opponents feet this how he beat Tyson. SSR fought this way too, nope SSR had a great defense.