Sugar says Lewis is alltime great yet only top 12

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by barneyrub, Dec 14, 2007.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Stonehands you are my new favourite classic poster. Apart from you don't like the Fonz, you are best.
     
  2. ChrisPontius

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    Liston quit on his stool after 6 rounds against someone at the time regarded as having a weak jaw (Banks knocked him down, Cooper knocked him silly) and being little more than a loud mouth who was lucky to 'only' be an 8 to 1 underdog.

    Oh, did i sound like an idiot?

    Liston has better stamina, based on what though? Liston went the 12 round distance a grand total of one time in his entire career. Rahman did it several times and has had very high punch outputs, for instance he threw around 60 punches a round against Toney which was what should've won him the fight on a fair scorecard. Liston never did that.


    I think Rahman also scores better on physical strength. He's built like a house and did a lot of strength building exercises (weight lifting). He's bigger than Liston, too.
     
  3. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Let me know the next time a 190lbs heavyweight champion who can hold on to the title for a significant amount of time comes along. :good
     
  4. McGrain

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    OK, let's have it - if Dempsey was allowed to compete in this HW division would you think he could make contender status?

    How about Marcinao?
     
  5. Stonehands89

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    I feel very honored that you would say that. You don't post without my reading it by the way so you have a fan in this corner too.

    I have not been around as much as I'd like and when I do, time is short, so I find that I have to rush more. I like to craft these posts and have been feeling badly that I am not able to devote the time I'd like to them.

    Anyway, you made my night.

    PS/ I love the Fonz. When he was cool. In fact, I run around Boston telling people that there is a "Trinity of Cool and the three person in it are Elvis, the Fonz, and ME. Elvis is dead, the Fonz is fiction, and who's freakin left?
     
  6. Stonehands89

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    Ahem. A 190lb champion would be a Cruiserweight champion.
     
  7. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I seriously doubt that.

    Although I'd argue that Rahman is in fact stronger than Lewis.
     
  8. ThePlugInBabies

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    a 190lb CW vs a monster CW like david haye, nasty business.
     
  9. Stonehands89

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    Dempsey? Marciano? Haye gets hurt. I'd take Floyd Patterson over Haye at this point -quite easily.
     
  10. ChrisPontius

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    Not just contender status, but undisputed champion.








    At cruiserweight. :good
     
  11. brownpimp88

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    suzie q 49 ranks walcott at #10, but lennox at #13. That is disgraceful, walcott lost so many times in his own prime, but since hes an old school guy he will get excused. Hes 10-12 against ranked fighters, pathetic.
     
  12. Bill1234

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    And you happen to be an idiot, so there's one of your major flaws...
     
  13. brownpimp88

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    why does everyone keep calling me a racist, im not black and i dont have hatred towards white people. Hell my ex is a white girl, lol. Lennox is top 5-7 easily.
     
  14. Bill1234

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    Ok dumb ass, its time for you to start bringing up different topics around me then. Not to mention so far all youve done was make stupid comments about Larry. Calling him ugly for example. Wow, great, great debate. Just can't beat that point.:bowdown
     
  15. Stonehands89

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    Something tells me that you are not being truthful, paisan.