I would argue,only Roy,Bernard,Wladimir,,Manny and Floyd are ATG's. As great Oscar,Juan,Marco etc were. I don't think they were ATG's. i think it's reserved to best of the best. even Hopkins could be dropped from ATG status. Only those 4dudes are locked ATG's. and why Wladimir?easy.regardless what people think. Wlad was the king of boxing for 10yrs. Didn't have memorable battles. but for 10years.there was no man on planet who could beat him in boxing(i give extra points for HW's.weightclasses are created for manlets. No weight or height classes in sports like Basketball etc..
Bernard definitely won't be dropped from ATG status, just based on his accomplishments in longevity alone.
Yes he won't. But i mean in Hopkins case you could argue that. I mean ATG spots are reserved to greatest of greatest. Hopkins in my opinion just barely makes it. And i'm big Hopkins nuthugger. And if you compare Floyd,Manny,Roy,Wladimir to Bernard.it's clear Bernard comes behind. Again repeating myself.but ATG status should given only to the best of the best. And you could argue Bernard was not in that category.and i don't know if longevity makes it up. But i put Hopkins up there too.
Canelo, DLH, Pacquiao, Margarito, Mayweather, Cotto, Winky, Vargas, Mayorga, Forrest ... nothing special he says SMH Probably the best resume in the past several decades including May and Pac. I'm not saying he's an ATG but he sure fought everyone mostly in their prime and he didn't need catchweights AFAICR.
No catchweights, sure, but steroids? Yes. Not saying no one else is/was doing it but he's a proven cheat. And he did fight everyone but he lost too many of those. Your success is based on your wins, not failures.
Like Floyd or Manny or any other top boxer weren't chemically enhanced too but never got popped. Sugar Shane retires as a legend, hope he managed to invest some loot after getting robbed by his ex, enjoy retirement champ.
Has he ever failed a drug test? At least he was honest about his use. Others pretend God gave their talents. Anybody that thinks these top athletes aren't on anything are nuthuggers.
Believing what about the CSAC ?? Read the lab report. I QUOTE "Trace elements of both calcium & sulphur were found on the pad under microscopic analysis bpth are ingredients pf plaster of paris" They are indeed BUT What they failed to add on the CSAC'a statement was " In substantally larger quantities Plus they are also ingredients of HUMAN SWEAT & HAND CREAM" Ckever wording huh ? Margarito had already been suspended on the word of a blatant liar who claimed he saw PLASTER INSERTS !!!! The commission LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He was honest because he got caught. Don't be one of those nuthuggers. I really do like Shane, just calling it like it is.
I agree a lot of top athletes probably take something, but Shane was kind of full of it too. Someone "leaked" a video of YouTube of Shane allegedly admitting in a deposition that he used PEDs, then afterwards he released a public statement that he was "always a clean fighter". He originally tried to defend himself by bringing a lie detector test, and left out the fact that his lawyer was the one asking him the questions during the test.