Sugar Shane VS Tito Trinidad

I will never forgive Winky unless this fight happens. Would have been a helluva fight @ 154 and a pick em.

SSM by UD in a fight worth every penny.

 

I think Tito could box him with power.

SSM chin is very good but he can be discouraged when he has to weather hard shots when coming in. Plus guys who are bigger and stronger than Shane can take away the physical advantage that he had at lightweight and against the lesser welterweight fighters.

Tito had to speed, skill and natural eye for countering that could really trouble Mosley.
Very close fight, hard one to pick, I expect a lot of differing opinons on it.

 

Plus I dont think neither were particulary skilled or classically schooled fighters. They relied heavily on their natural abilities.

Id go as far to say that Tito was the more textbook fighter. Shane never really had the top shelf skills of a Mayweather or an Ali, he basically outpowered, outspeeded and overwhelmed his opponants with his athletic ability. (ie strength, speed, reflex)
And he used his reflexes as his main defence,

 

No doubt
But also more than Mosley's is what I am saying.

What Im saying with that point is that if Shane wasnt the stronger, faster, more athletic guy then he doesnt have the sort of skills that Mayweather as to fall back on.

Now Shane would be faster and probably more athletic than Tito, but not bigger or stronger, nor would there be a big gap in skill. I cant recall a time that Shane has beaten an elite fighter in their prime that was bigger than him bar De La Hoya.
I think thats a weakness that people overlook when talking about Shane. He wasnt THAT skillful, he was more talent.

And Im a huge Mosley fan.

 

Mosley UD. Too fast and elusive for the 1 dimenisonal Tito!

 

Shane would probably have earned a close decision. He could stick and move when needed. A good example is the first Vargas fight...and yes 'Nando was past his prime (though not shot yet, imo), but so was Shane.

 

Guess there arent to many differing opinions.
Nobody agrees with me

Serves me right for going against my man Sugar.

 

Great posts once again Rock. Agree that this would be a very tough fight. I might actually lean towards Tito in this one. He had most trouble with guys with either good movement, good jabs or both. I think Shane can move well, but against pressure fighters I have never seen him move like Floyd, he tends to sit in the pockets and look to counter punch on the way in. Tito was a dynamic in fighter, with explosive power. I can see him overwhelming Shane, although it would be a tremendous fight. If Shane could keep his movement up he could take it.

 

Cheers MSTR
Yeah definitely but I just feel that Shane doesnt have a lot of history fighting like that. Guys like Whitaker, Camacho, Carr and Reid were better at that and Tito was fairly dominant against them but of course sweet pea and macho were considerbly past it.

I dont think Shane could run aswell as Oscar, just wasnt his thing.

 

A lot of boxing fans have short memories rock. I am talking about the prime tito, the wrecking machine, the guy who floored a prime and undefeated Vargas three times in the opening round, who totally dominated Pernell Whitaker, who destroyed a prime and undefeated Yori Campas, you captured his first world title with a brutal knockout.

 

I don't think Shane has ever looked great against pressure. Watched him vs Holliday and wasn't impressed. Watched him vs an OLD and beaten Vargas and wasn't impressed. I expect Cotto to take him apart with effective pressure. Oscar provided pressure, but in the first fight it wasn't effective for the most part. He isn't active enough to be a true pressure fighter. Guys like Cotto and Tito break your will, and overpower you. thats something that Oscar couldn't do inside like Tito.

 

Thats what I thought this meant. Tito was a beast at welter.

 

Would have been a great fight. Agree with your assesment. Very close, with both guys landing big punches.

 

I would.
I would say fairly dominant, not a shut out or beat down but its very very hard to be dominant against Sweet Pea. Remember Oscar got a very thin decision against him like only 18 months before.

I think the fact that Sweet Pea said that it was his first true loss is testament to how well Tito did.