Sugar Valuev vs 'middle aged' Ortiz

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by El Hans, Aug 8, 2019.


  1. El Hans

    El Hans Member banned Full Member

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    The southpaw who KO'd Joe Louis in a exhibition "upset" or the boxer who dines on small children and did to Evan Fields what Tyson spends his waking hours day dreaming of.
     
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  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Prime Ortiz (circa 1786) beats the shite outta Valuev
     
  3. El Hans

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    Break down the fight Valuev in his prime embodied the modern fighter my autocorrect has the words "Prime Valuev" corrected to God for a reason son.

    Convince me that Ortiz a relic whose best win is an undersized "heavyweight" who would be a cruiser today can beat Valuev.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    Lmao at the Auto correct bit.

    But the reason Ortiz beats God is that he was competitive with Primo Carnera in 1934, he looked absolutely stunning before the dive and as well all know Carnera>Bowe
    https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...fighter-primo-carnera-or-riddick-bowe.585492/
    He was also 148 years past his best and there's no footage of him at his absolute peak. He'd be absolutely staggering on film if it was around in the 1780s.
     
  5. El Hans

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    Dont you know "Sonny Liston" is just Jack Johnson? He retook his title fine in his flesh puppet after faking his death Ortiz hasn't been lineal once! Johnson was decades past his prime and still managed WHY? the second a champion shorter then he arose Johnson pounced.

    Age is just a number in boxing unless its weight or height because at its core that's what makes a boxer you haven't convinced me Ortiz has anything to offer God.

    Oh before you mention it yes Johnson ducked Marciano the ONLY man to overcome height and weight at a championship level he can't compete with God but upwards of 3inches in height and 50lbs he has their number so of course he ducked him.
     
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