Sulaiman said they will not block Wilder vs. Klitschko/Fury winner

Either way Wilder is getting his brains knocked out.

 

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I want to see it happen against Wlad, because he deserves to become undisputed and has waited long enough for that chance.

 

The fix is in.

Wlad will sell his titles to Wilder !
Wlad will lose by agreement.
Wlad retires.

 

It's economics.

Wlad's almost 40 years old, after a decade or two he still hasn't captured the imagination of the Americans.
He's looking towards retirement.
He's huge in Germany but do the German / European promoters have a replacement for Wlad ?

But in America there's Al Haymon, and there's Deontay Wilder, and millions of clueless casual sports fans who haven't really watched heavyweight boxing since Lewis-Tyson !
Wilder looks the part to them, and is 34-0 with 33 KOs.

 

I believe the plan was to sell Wilder to clueless casual fans. However in today's age it's harder to pass someone over who doesn't pass the eye test. It's a more cynical world and quite simply the knowledgeable fans are spreading the word. Let's face it their just too many red flags with the guy. Plus he looked mediocre in two of his last three fights against less than journeyman. abell, and Molina. If it quacks, looks and acts you know the rest.

 

Case in point I have a friend involved in sports on a business level, but he deals with basketball. We were talking last month and he always asks me about boxing. So he asked does America have a HW hopeful anytime soon. So I told him about Wilder and that he had a fight coming up on showtime to check it out. The night of the fight I'm watching, and my phone goes off with a beep, I received a text message from my friend. I open it up and it reads: "this guy is sh*t"

 

I would agree with this, assuming that WBC didn't make a deal with Wilder's team behind the scenes to allow him yet another voluntary defense after Molina.

However, I'm pretty sure that such scenario did occur, thus resulting with WBC's shady decision of setting Wilder-Povetkin negotiations in October instead of July.

What Klitschko should do, would be focusing on mandatory defense in early 2016, thus preventing Wilder from avoiding Povetkin any further and forcing him to actually deserve a shot at Wlad.

However, Klitschko will probably fight Wilder considering that he's likely less of a threat and possibly an easier fight to make than Povetkin II.

Unfortunately the corruption of WBC (in this case) will very possibly take away from Povetkin what he rightfully deserved.

 

The WBA super champion title would likely only be on the line for the winner of Wlad vs. Wilder if Povetkin got a guaranteed shot at the winner within 180 days or so.

 

Wilder never fought Abell.

 

Every unification fight Wlad has been in has been 50/50 I don't see wilder being any different.

 

My mistake Gavern.

 

Read the WBC rules. They're on the website.

No "deal" was needed -- a champion has to make a mandatory defense within a year of winning the title. Wilder won in January. The start of the negotiation process is to ensure that the mandatory takes place on time.

(And for those who might want to raise the point of Stiverne having to make his mandatory immediately - it was actually 8 months - the rules stipulate that a champion who wins a vacant title has to make a mandatory immediately, since he didn't defeat another champion, so that's the difference.)

Wilder can fight as many more voluntary defenses as he chooses or the schedule will allow before January.

Considering Povetkin didn't even become the mandatory challenger until May 22, please explain to me how he's getting screwed.

 

I didn't actually know that those were exact WBC rules. If so, you're right.

However, it's still more than obvious that WBC has been more than corrupt in pushing Arreola and Wilder.

Could you please explain how did Wilder vs. Scott end up being the final eliminator?

How is it possible that a guy gets stopped by Chisora, then beats some guy named Grover Young and ends up fighting in the final WBC eliminator?

WBC is protecting certain boxers and everyone knows it (but then again, it's not that WBA is so much better).

 

Povetkin hasn't been screwed yet. Do you think in Ocotber when negotiations begin that Wilder will attempt to unify with Wlad using the WBC escape clause of a unification match can trump a mandatory? If he does that then yes I think Povetkin would feel screwed. Especially since they could have made the fight and made lots of money but instead Wilder is off fighting guys like Molina and had he won yesterday Arreola. When your mandatory also happens to be your highest paying opponent and a fight the fans want, when you stall and take on guys that are not rated in the top 50 it's frustrating. This isn't Wlad being mandated to fight Leapai. This is a quality match that would earn both fighters a great sum of money.

 

I think the boxing world would rather see Wlad and Wilder in a unification than Wilder vs. Povetkin.

Either would earn the fighters a great sum of money, and Povetkin (who already had a title shot and fell well short in it) would get the winner, so it's not like it means anything but him sitting and waiting another six months or so.

I know you support Povetkin, but a unified heavyweight title should take precedence, and if Povetkin were to beat the winner he'd be better off in the long run.