Sulaiman said they will not block Wilder vs. Klitschko/Fury winner

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't support Povetkin. I just don't support a champion wasting time with Molina and another voluntary which will make less money and be against a lesser quality opponent than his mandatory.
    Why not fight Povetkin make lots of money and then unify with Wlad. He could double his earning power and would be viewed as a far more credible threat once he defeats Povetkin.
    Besides if Wlad were to fight Wilder after Fury. I am sure the IBF would force him to either face Glazkov next or vacate his belt. Which would mean that either his WBC belt or IBF belt would be stripped. Therefore I believe Wlad should face Glazkov and Wilder should face Povetkin with the winners facing each other in summer/fall of 2016.
     
  2. FrankinDallas

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    But at what catchweight?
     
  3. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm not sure that I get why you care how much money fighters make, or in what order they make that money -- if Wilder fights two voluntary defenses before Povetkin (one already), that's another few million in the bank ... and he still gets, what, 70 percent of the purse bid for the Povetkin fight.

    Or he gets 50-50 with Wlad, which is probably equal to or greater than what he'd make against Povetkin.

    If he were to actually beat Wlad and unify, he'd make a lot more against Povetkin because the money would only go up if he's holding more than just the WBC belt.

    So unless he gets upset in his next fight, he actually comes out better financially in the long run.
     
  4. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well that's the key in your last sentence. If Wilder loses to say Arreola. He would lose millions. Why risk it. Why not make your money now. That's good business. Besides who knows how much he would receive fighting Povetkin as a mandatory. He somehow got paid more than Stiverne even though he was the mandatory to Stiverne's belt.
    If Wilder fights another mandatory, then fights Wlad, I do feel Povetkin would feel screwed. I don't know your opinion on that matter you haven't answered it.
    Also why would Wlad not make Wilder wait, therefore he could get all his mandatories out of the way in which case when he they do unify he has an opportunity to defend the belts and not be immediately stripped.
     
  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He can't fight another mandatory. Povetkin is the only mandatory challenger.

    If he fights another voluntary defense, which I assume is what you mean, that's well within the window of time before he has to fight a mandatory. Povetkin isn't screwed, he has to wait until January. Them's the rules. Works the same for Povetkin if he ever wins the title, he doesn't have to fight the mandatory challenger immediately, but within a year.

    Yes, everything is a gamble. But the more Wilder fights before facing Wlad or Povetkin, the better prepared he should be -- not just another fight, but another training camp as well.
     
  6. The Long Count

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    No he can fight another voluntary (I wouldn't advise that if I were his management) but to each his own.( and you assume right, sorry for he mix up calling it a mandatory) I am referring to-if Wilder fights his second voluntary and then after that, tries to fight Wlad before Fighting Povektin. Would and should Povektkin feel screwed over.
    I just feel that both fighters should clear their mandatories off their schedule- in Wlad's case Fury and Glazkov. In Wilder's case Povetkin. I think it builds the unification match and enables both parties to keep all he belts whoever may win.
     
  7. BCS8

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    Yes ... but imho Povetkin has improved a bit since then and Wlad may have slipped a little. We could be in for a surprise.
     
  8. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    The people saying this is in any way a bad thing or that it is unfair to Povetkin need to stop. 1. Who is more deserving of a WBC title shot than Wlad, simply based on career accomplishments? 2. People keep forgetting Wlad beat Jennings back when he was WBC mandatory. How does Povetkin leapfrog over Wlad for mandatory after that, anyway?

    Say what you want about Wilder getting the shot in the first place, others were more deserving but it wasn't that bad, certainly not corrupt. Scott drew against Glaskov, is a legit top 20 HW, and Wilder had an impressive ko streak going. Vastly less deserving contenders than him have become mandatory in other organizations (Leapai, anyone?). But there is absolutely no reasonable argument out there that the WBC allowing a unification with Wlad and Wilder is in anyway unfair. It would be unfair to Wlad to keep delaying his well earned opportunity to be unified champ.
     
  9. The Long Count

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    Yes Wlad beat Jennings but alphabet organizations don't recognize the champions of other belts. So he was not entitled to fight for the WBC belt. Don't get me wrong, Wlad has the best resume and has long deserved to unify all the titles. The issue I have is with Wilder and timing. After he has his second voluntary defense, he will be ordered to face Povetkin. After that fight the winner should face Wlad. Povetkin should not have his career stalled for such a long period of time, especially with Wilder fightig the likes of Eric Molina and whomever is his next voluntary. After that it is only fair for Povetkin who has earned his shot to fight Wilder.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    I hope Vlad gets the fight with Wilder because he really wants that fight badly.....................Povetkin has really big money behind him from a Russian promoter who is super rich..............................that fight would happen in Moscow........................
     
  11. fists of fury

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    Well that'it. You can't pass Wilder off as a world beater because he fails the eye test. Even casual fans can see his lack of talent.
     
  12. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Silly man is a cu nt /thread
     
  13. Maggo

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    HE should say, he won't block Povetkin vs Klitschko :deal