Sulaiman should remain non-partisan

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  1. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Wow yeah,talk about double standards.
    It’s almost as if Shadow and Isal are running the show(that was joke you two,no offence intended):pancarta:
     
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  2. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No more like 99.9% but that .1% seems to be enough clear him,Golovkin is dead right about everyone carrying on like it’s ok.
     
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  3. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    Any amount of Clenbuterol is doping, says WADA

    "Just because it's small doesn't mean it's not doping," WADA's Christiane Ayotte told the New York Times. "This is just the dopers adjusting or mis-adjusting to the testing."



    It's 100%
     
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  4. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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  5. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    WBC is basically a Mexican boxing mafia passed from father to son. That's what it is. Mexicans are going to get preferential treatment.
     
  6. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol your avatar,Golovkin only need produce that pic in court when he gets sued by Oscar.
     
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  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You are misrepresenting Christiane Ayotte's quote. It is from a NY Times article in 2010 regarding the Contador situation.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/09/sports/cycling/09cycling.html

    The article states :

    In Contador’s urine sample, scientists had found 50 picograms per milliliter of clenbuterol, which the cycling union acknowledged was a “very small” amount. One pictogram equals one trillionth of a gram, but World Anti-Doping Agency rules say that even a minuscule amount of the drug results in a failed doping test.

    Christiane Ayotte, who runs a WADA lab outside Montreal, said that even a tiny amount of clenbuterol found in an athlete’s system could indicate doping. That weight-loss and muscle-building drug is very potent, she said, so even a minute dose could be effective for athletes seeking an edge.


    Contador's test result was such a small amount, she's saying that just because a test positive is of a small amount, does not rule out doping.

    It reads :

    Of those trace amounts found in athletes’ samples, she said, “This is just the dopers adjusting or misadjusting to the testing.”

    It's unclear if the last part of the statement is even referring to clenbuterol or if she's just talking generally about low level results.

    7 years later, WADA released this information as they felt the need to clear up some confusion regarding clenbuterol.

    https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/news/2017-04/wada-statement-on-ard-documentary

    As this is a very complex topic, which is subject to misinterpretation, the Agency wishes to clarify more facts as outlined below.

    One of those facts is :
    • It should be noted that athletes around the world are tested by WADA-accredited laboratories having very low level detection for clenbuterol. Cases are regularly reported and sanctioned when it is proven that the clenbuterol is of pharmacological origin. Hundreds of cases have been prosecuted since 2010.
    So since your statement from Christiane Ayotte way back in 2010, a lot has changed in terms of the way WADA handles clenbuterol cases between then and now.

    Now WADA is much more aware of clenbuterol being in contaminated meat
    • Since the issue of meat contamination was first exposed, WADA has been working closely with sports authorities in the countries concerned to address the root cause; and, has dedicated significant resources to research studies aimed at distinguishing pharmacological versus contamination origins of clenbuterol. This work is ongoing.
    So you are relying on a quote from a lab director from back in 2010 which was in regard to the Contador situation.

    It's increadly misleading for you to try to equate that statement to cases involving contaminated meat. Since Ayotte made that quote, due to the fact that It has been scientifically established that an athlete can test positive for clenbuterol at low levels following ingestion of contaminated meat, as you can see WADA has clarified their stance on clenbutrol cases and do not consider "any amount of clenbutrol as doping" like you are trying to suggest from the statement way back in 2010.
     
  8. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Actually, Sulaiman and Canelo made up just before the news came out about Canelo’s positive test. So Sulaiman is just paying Canelo back now. Check it out:

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.lati...wbc-canelo-20180227-story.html?outputType=amp
     
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  9. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seriously Shadow you should discount any statements and use your eyes and brain,how long ago was it when Oscar was saying Canelo needs to grow into 160?do you know anyone in they late twenties who just keeps on growing?
     
  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do you not see what I am bringing to your attention?

    The headline "Any amount of Clenbuterol is doping, says WADA" is extremely misleading. That quote was from way back in 2010 ! We're in 2018 !

    A lot has changed in the last 8 years don't you think?

    That quote from 2010 wasn't even from WADA itself, but from a WADA lab director responding to the Contador sample being of a "very small" level in a NY Times article.

    Trying to act like that's WADA's official stance on clenbuterol in 2018 from some lab director way back in 2010 is utterly absurd! It's massively disingenous to act like that's WADA's official stance as it relates to clenbuterol and cases of contaminated meat.
     
  11. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lol you should look at the pics yourself,have to say I wondered if Golovkin was going mad when he talked of injection marks but they are there to be seen on counter punch boxing.
     
  12. Farmboxer

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    VADA cleared Povetkin, yet the WBC still would not allow Povetkin to fight Wilder! Now El Pollo has tested positive for PEDS two times, but that is OK with the WBC! Double standard!