Mora and Whittaker are better than their, Ruiz and Takam's, best wins. And that 'bloated briggs' was WBO hw Champion, was knocking people over in the 00s. An even older Holyfield gave Valuev a hard fight. You also take midgets Ruiz and Takam over Valuev?
Briggs was the definition of a paper champ. He was ready to be plucked by any half decent fighter, after he lucked into the belt with that hail Mary on Lyakhovich. Holyfield was ancient, and the fact he was competitive with Valuev only highlights how terrible Valuev was at that stage (and how overrated that win was for Haye). Whitaker lost by KO to Krasniqi, whom Tony Thompson knocked out a short while after. Hardly a brilliant win for Ibragimov. Decent win (TT) for Takam. Who the hell did Sergio Mora ever beat? EDIT: Javier Mora, not Sergio
Whittaker was a solid verging B class hw operator. Has a resume littered with name wins. Mora was a decent verging C class guy, only Pov and Iggy stopped him in 30 fights. Who the hell did Ruiz and Takam ever beat to say they'd take Iggy is the point? Their best wins are corpses.
Takam beat Tony Thompson and Mike Perez (draw was BS, as I'm sure you agree). He was also massively competitive with Povetkin and Parker, and pretty damned competitive vs Joshua as well. Ruiz doesn't have any particularly great names on his resume, but the fact he was competitive with Parker alone puts him on a certain level. Mora is a Joey Abell type opponent. Probably worse. I'm not sure why you're even bringing him up.
But Don King had old man Mendoza in his pocket then and we know Iggy would have had to get thru Ruiz or Valuev for that fight lol
Takam decisioned a 43 y/o corpse in Thompson. I mean, I like Tony Thompson but he was giving away 10 years to Takam and was way too long in the tooth. He was in the fight vs Pov but was knocked out clean, same as Arreola was in the second fight vs Stiverne until he got walloped. I only bring Mora up because he was a tough guy that only Iggy and Pov stopped. You reckon Parker beats Iggy based on his showings vs Ruiz and Takam (his best wins) and my point is these guys are not on Iggy's level, so logically neither is Parker or Hughie Fury. Not just now anyway.
Iggy could definitely punch ''Sultan hits like a Mack truck'' -- Ray Austin ESB: You fought Sultan Ibragimov to a draw in 2006. What are your recollections? AUSTIN: ''He was the hardest puncher I’ve ever faced in my life. The man’s punching power was unreal.'' What’s It Like To Be Hit By Sultan Ibragimov?…Exclusive Interview With Sultan’s Sparring Partner Danny Batchelder So with all the yap-yap about whether Sultan should fight Evander, and the prognostications about the eventual outcome, it occurred to me that there should be at least one guy out there who has spent more time in the ring with Ibragimov than any of his opponents or fans. After all, a Boxing match only puts two guys together for thirty-six minutes at most. The opponents, hopefully, see each other at their best, but only for that short time. On the other hand, a sparring partner spends weeks and weeks with the boxer in training.. This guy gets into the ring day-after-day with the boxer, as well as witnessing the fighter’s relationship with his trainer, manager and others on the team. The interplay between a sparring partner and the boxer he is helping to train, is one of the most intense in all of sports. As this is a contact sport, the immediate power of the contact makes the sparring partner a virtual expert on the effectiveness of the other guy in the ring and, obviously, one who has a great opportunity to asses his personality. Therefore, ESB asked Sultan’s latest sparring partner Danny Batchelder (25-5) to give us his take on Ibragimov the Boxer and the man. ESB: Hey man, thanks for getting back to us. Now that your training assignment with Ibragimov is complete, we would like to know what are your most vivid impressions of sparring with Sultan? Danny: “Man, that guy can crack! Even with big, fat sparring gloves his power comes right through. I just lost a split decision to James Toney in May (92-98, 93-97, 96-94). I know he was great at one time…you can’t take that away from him, but lately I don’t have much respect for him. Sultan is so different in every way. ESB: How long did you spar with Sultan…is this the first time? Danny: “Yes, this was the first time, and it lasted about three weeks.” ESB: Since you mentioned Toney, tell us about your fight with Alexander Dimitrenko for background leading up to sparring Sultan. Danny: “That guy is 6’7”-254 pounds, he’s from Ukraine and fights in Germany…think he’s number one or two in the WBO…Continental Champion…he’s a good fighter, great boxer…I had him down in the fifth round, but they didn’t count him. He caught me with a couple of good shots when he came back in the seventh and they stopped it…you know, I tell it how it is. After fighting those two guys then working with Sultan, I was very very impressed with him. Sultan’s a guy, you know, he’s not a big heavyweight. I think a lot of people look at him, and I think they underestimate him by lookin’ at him, but you know…I also sparred David Tua…I’ve been in there with some pretty big guys and Sultan can bring the power big time.” ESB: You say he can punch, but how about boxing? He’s got a rep for being an amateurish slugger…is that what you experienced when you fought with him? Danny: “Jeff Mayweather, who I have a lot of respect for…he’s a great trainer, he has Sultan boxin’ very good now…a lot of people I know don’t think of Sultan as a fighter…as a good boxer you know, but I’m tellin’ ya Sultan can box…and he’s a great person too on top of all of that. And, um…I was very impressed with Sultan, he’s probably one of the most impressive guys I’ve been in the ring with. I mean he’s…you got to watch yourself every second of every round. You have to…I mean you gotta come in there sharp because if you don’t I mean man he can punch, and he will…he’ll light you up if you make a mistake.” ESB: In a way I feel ill equipped to evaluate the guy because, as a Boxing reporter, all I get is polite conversation, but you guys are out there on the edge where few humans ever go risking complete exposure. Danny: Your right about that, but I’m one of the guys that’s been in there with him and I really respect him as a man as well as a fighter…and uh there’s so many people who can’t know by combat experience with him, but I’m tellin’ ya, you better not look at him and think this or that because that man can fight, he’s got a great chin, that man can punch with the best of them. I really don’t expect this Holyfield fight…I mean you know, Holyfield’s tricky, he’s dirty…who knows how long he might be able to last but…I just see Sultan…I mean he’s just too fast, he’s younger…I just really see Sultan just destroyin’ him. That’s the only way I see the fight” ending up.” ESB: What’s it like to get hit by Sultan? Danny: “I guess I’ve been hit by a lot of people and, you know, I’m a fighter myself, I have pride you know…I’ve been hit by a lot of guys…guys that can punch and I’m tellin’ you Sultan can ruin your day. He’s one of the few guys I’ve been in the ring with, and when he hits you, if he hits you good boy, even in sparring, you say whoa! You ain’t going to want that again, and you find out real quick you got to be on the ball with him.” ESB: How do you think he would do if he got inside on Wlad? Danny: “Interesting you bring that up. I recently told Jeff Mayweather I think Sultan’s the guy that can beat Klitschko because I think he has so much will and determination, and he is a tough tough character. And he can hit hard enough…I think that umm…I think he can make Klitschko quit.” ESB: You know I have interviewed a couple of boxers that went over there to fight him and it seems that all the fireworks, music and cheering intimidates them before they ever get in the ring with him. Danny: “You know when I went over there to fight Dimitrenko they had all the fireworks, smoke and they had a packed crowd like fourteen thousand people all cheering for him that night…I mean you know you just gotta stay focused, and Sultan’s a guy…I don’t think that would even phase him. I don’t think he’d think about it. After the tenth round Wlad wanted to quit when he fought Peter. Manny Steward had to literally push him out there because when they get tired they get scared, and Sultan’s the guy, I know is the guy that could make them guys tired…I think he could make them panic.” ESB: Uh huh, I’ve seen him panic a couple of times. Danny: “Even though Sultan’s a great person, a great individual and he laughs, he jokes and is a real nice guy, but I’m tellin’ you what, when he gets in the ring though boy, there ain’t no jokin’ there.” ESB: I have noticed many boxers put on a game face when they get in the ring, but he makes as big a transition as I’ve ever seen. Danny: “I’ve got a friend James Walton who fought Sultan and I told him about Mayweather’s training, which has Sultan boxing, and he said, ‘Really?!’ and I said yeah. I’m tellin’ you he can move, he can punch, he’s got a great jab when he uses it, he’s got a lot of weapons. I’m tellin’ you Sultan’s one of them heavyweights that he does belong there, and he’s gonna be there whether people want him to or not, they’re gonna have to deal with him or look chicken.” Hey, do me a favor. I want everybody to know that I think Toney got a bit of home town in that fight with me, and a lot of people believe that I actually beat him. I know I beat him and he knows it too. I could tell by the look in his eyes he knew it too, just like that time with Oscar and Felix. I think he’s afraid of me because the split was so close, and he knows I went to school on him during that fight enough to take him out next time. If he doesn’t give me a rematch, that will just prove my point.” ESB: Thank you for taking time to give us the benefit of your thoughts about Sultan. His camp sends their regards, and they believe that your sparring with Sultan was very effective in preparing him for this fight.' Jeffrey Mayweather said Sultan could really crack too. This isn't the interview I'm referring too but he does mention it here as well. He also mentioned that he had bad problems with his hands. JEFF: Well number one, he’s undefeated so that’s always a real good thing to have on your side. Number two, Sultan’s much faster than Klitschko is and also he punches just as hard has Klitschko does. Wlad said Sultan was the smartest fighter he fought and the joint most skilful SMARTEST Ibragimov: Absolutely Ibragimov. He was very sneaky, he knew what he was doing, he was smart. MOST SKILLFUL I would say Ibragimov. Very sneaky, very fast, very technical considering his size and the way he does it. Iggy came in way over weight for the Austin fight, about 10lbs more than he usually did and he had problems with his knees. ESB: What happened during the Austin fight which led to the draw. Sultan: I had trouble with my knees. I was unable to do my sprinting because of the pain, and during the fight it was still a problem. Then Sultan’s manager Boris Grinberg joined in to say that: “He did not tell us about the problem.” Sultan: Two weeks before the fight I cannot run properly. ESB: Do you think it was from over-training or training too quickly? Sultan: Yeah. I decided to honor my agreement to fight even so. ESB: You were 230 for that fight… Boris: 235 ESB: During the Mora fight you were down to about 220. Did you feel faster at that weight? Sultan: Yes. There was a big difference. I was able to move in the ring better. ESB: Will you be the same for the Briggs fight? Sultan: Yes.
It was already done deal but chagy got injured if i remember correcty. Iggy then fought holy and latter wlady
Iggy. IMO he hits harder and counters better. And he does not gas like Parker does. Chins are about equal. So Iggy on point or late round TKO