The oddest thing is the repeated insistence that if you query the offer, you're querying whether Haymon has the money. It seems fairly obvious to everyone that A, he does, and B, he has said money by virtue of not making business decisions which would lose him millions. Wilder does 300k against Fury. Joshua has never been on PPV in America. For this to work it would need to be the third biggest selling US PPV of all time by a considerable margin. I mean, to illustrate what it would need to do, it would have to do 600k (twice as much as Wilder's last fight) on top of how many sales Oscar v Floyd did.
I wonder if those other two fights were arranged via a public social media demand to agree an amount within 24 hours with no further details or indeed meetings or calls accepted?
Who in the world offered Wilder $50m? His own team certainly didn't, unless you think that they'd be crazy enough to guarantee Joshua and Wilder $50m each. Not even Mayweather and McGregor or Mayweather and Pacquiao were guaranteed $50m each and they were much bigger fights.
Wrong Mayweathers guareteed purse was at least 100m each fight http://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/...0-million-purse-conor-mcgregor-get-30-million
Noted. It doesn't change my original point that Wilder wasn't guaranteed $50m for the AJ fight, though.
Joshua: "I'm not interested in Tyson Fury - he's not the champion”. Thought he said he wanted to fight him the other day, now he doesn’t. Obviously don’t blame him...he has the chance to win all the belts if he beats Wilder. It also makes sense to try and freeze Fury out for the time being because he’s the best heavyweight on the planet. “I don’t know where this lineal just popped out of the woodwork from” AJ knows his boxing history, it’s been going since 1885. Freeze Fury out and play down the lineal status like you’ve never heard of it. I actually don’t mind AJ saying these things. They’re building a narrative now for a brilliant rivalry.
Nobody ever mentioned lineal until Tyson was coming back off his drugs ban. He has no interest in fighting Fury next is what I presume he’s saying. What does Fury bring to the table? An imaginary title - which if we’re being totally honest he waived any right to when he was caught cheating, never mind the bottling off the rematch. On top of that he’s a dangerous opponent. Wilder is a much more winnable fight, much more makeable fight with no Frank/Eddie BT/SKY nonsense and it unifies the division. So from a logical point of view Dave, what would YOU take? The harder fight for no titles, or the less difficult one to unify the division, then the Fury option will still be there.
The lineal title claim is rather dubious. I think Fury retiring then fighting Seferi arguably nullifies his claim to it.
Poor attempt. Hearn confirmed on IFL that the $50m offer was genuine and he'd checked that the money was there. He said Joshua would make his mind up within the next couple of weeks. He chose not to fight. IIRC?? About what I'm thinking about???? You recall incorrectly.
You could insert Wilder's name in there too. Joshua-Whyte2 The Beef Returns 13/04/19 PPV with some great darts matches on the undercard.
I agree 100%. AJ didn't want to fight in the US on a PBC card, Wilder didn't want to fight in the UK on Matchroom card. Of course the $50m offer was genuine. I haven't disputed that. It just isn't relevant, as the negotiation went past that point. At some point you're going to acknowledge that more offers have been made, but I guess not soon. We know that Wilder has a two-fight deal on the table which includes a split of the PPV. Of course, if he rejects that as well, you'll forget it exists.
As fans I don’t debate the British public would want the fury fight next. But if you put yourself in Joshua’s shoes there’s only one plausible option.
Your making the same mistake again. Buisness in the US is done very differently. Hearn found out quickly when he tried to sign PBC Fighters, that he didn’t realise they get more on the side, than what it is officially confirmed on the commission fees When people on here say Wilder only earnt $2.5M for the Ortiz fight. I laugh. Don’t take everything at face value. Onto Joshua-Wilder. The money guranteed wasn’t based on it doing a x number of PPV Sales. It was based on Joshua getting his arse to Vegas. That money was clearly guranteed by someone who was willing to take a risk or LOSS on the event. Now given Hearn contacted and recieved verification from Al Haymon, that tells me it was coming from him or a associate of his. Who knows it could’ve been a investor ? Or it could have been a corporation which specialises in asset management etc. One thing we can be certain though it was legit and verified and didn’t rely on the fight doing a set number of PPV’s. It’s called GURANTEED for a reason. Any money they make from PPV, would be money on top for the fighters. So Joshua would’ve been on course to make $50M PLUS This guy gave us a little background to where the funds might’ve been coming from- FROM 7:19 This content is protected
