Super 6: 2nd round

This was the original plan put out prior to the tournament being finalized, so I'm not sure if there's been some changes since...



Arthur Abraham vs. Jermain Taylor in October in Germany
Carl Froch vs. Andre Dirrell in October in the UK.
Mikkel Kessler vs. Andre Ward in November.
Arthur Abraham vs. Andre Dirrell in America in January 2010
Mikkel Kessler vs. Carl Froch in Europe in March 2010
Andre Ward vs. Jermain Taylor in America in April/May 2010
Andre Dirrell vs. Andre Ward in America in September 2010
Arthur Abraham vs. Carl Froch in November 2010, with Mikkel Kessler vs. Jermain Taylor taking place around the same time.

 

It still seems strange to me that this touney is not just a simple ellimination format.

This format really drags the whole thing out, and opens up the possibility for some odd scenarios based on the kind of schedual posted above.

ie) Just for example... let's say Taylor gets knocked out by AA in Oct, and knocked out by Dirrrell in April/May... Then he still gets to fight Kessler, who potentially might be coming off 2 spectacular KO wins and holding both the WBA and WBC belts by then???

Dosn't seem quite right to me... Or am I missing something here?

 

Yes you are missing something. Which is that the SuperSix will have a total of 12fights(I think) pitting the best Super Middles in the world against each other, with no 'bum of the month' easy defences in between. Surely 12 top fights is better than only 7 had it been a simple elimination with 8 fighters

 

Am I the only one who doesn't give a **** about the points system? I just wanna see great fights and it's hard to go wrong with any combination of these six fighters, even if one is coming off a loss.

 

Don't get me wrong... I love this tournament either way. :good

 

yeh im not really thinking of the points system. Just the potentially great fights

 

I'm actually glad this is not an elimination fight - we get to see more quality match-ups this way. Plus - styles makes fights - so if one fight is a blow out - the next fight might be a great one. At the end of the day - no one will be able to make any excuses - even though we know someone will try.

 

Abraham KO 10 Taylor
Froch TKO 11 Dirrell
Kessler TKO 12 Ward
Abraham TKO 10 Dirrell
Kessler KO 9 Froch
Ward UD close Taylor
Ward UD close Dirrell
Froch UD Abraham
Kessler TKO 11 Taylor

 

The points system favors big punchers over good boxers. I still think it is more likely to put the best man on top at the end than single elimination would.

 

Wholeheartedly agreed. Just getting to see top quality fights has me excited. May the best man win it all, and may all the fights be as good as I believe they can be!

 

lol you think Direll is going to lose all his fights?
yo...hes taking this!

 

Abraham would have fought Taylor anyway. He needed to fight someone at SMW and given that Taylor would not have gotten any big name to fight him, it would have made sense for this fight to have taken place.

Froch would have fought Dirrell anyway. He is Froch's mandatory challenger for the WBC.

Kessler would have fought Ward anyway. Ward is Kessler's mandatory challenger for the WBA.

Both Kessler and Froch were expected to win their mandatory defences, so a unification fight between these two would not have been unlikely anyway.

That leaves Ward and Dirrell having to find fights. One will fight Abraham, who also needs a fight after Taylor, and the other one fights Taylor, who also needs a fight after Abraham, particularly if, as expected, he loses.

Froch and Abraham were always going to fight. It would have sold well anyway. With Kessler unified WBC and WBA champ, this fight makes sense. Kessler v. Taylor doesn't make sense.

In other words, the Super Six is a marketing vehicle for fights that would have happened anyway. Showtime have done very well indeed to fool so many naive fans into thinking it has made these fights happening, when it is in fact only showing fights that were going to happen anyway. All the participants are happy though. They all have at least three high profile fights guaranteed, win or lose, and that is unique these days in boxing. The promoter who has done best out of this is Gary Shaw, Taylor's promoter, who's pulled a huge rabbit out of a tiny hat. Ward and Dirrell's promoters have done well very well too, but they also take big risks. Their boys could lose three in a row. Kessler and his promoter should be very happy. Finally some high profile fights lined up and no more bull****. Froch is the one who has done least well, particularly since his fights are not going to be shown in the UK. Still, it looks likely he'll be involved in a unification fight followed by a winnable come-back fight against a credible opponent who will have been unbeaten in this tournament. So he's done very well too.

This tournament is a win, but not as much as some people make it out to be. Bute and Andrade should have been there instead of Ward and Dirrell. But that could not have happened because these two are manatories. Ironically, the belts are more important than the TV backing in this case than in most regular cases. Funny, huh?

 

Dirrell seems to have a poor chin and to hate pressure. He has a bad draw possible against Froch and Abraham - two big punchers who can take a few to unload some boms - and given that Dirrell has no power whatsoever, he's a gonner. He's got a chance against Ward but ever there, Ward is 60/40 for the win. He's just better than Dirrell, hits harder and is a tougher.

 

Nice to see you posting again Ramon.

I like reading your posts altough Margarito's mug kinda annoies me.