Super Middleweight rankings:

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  1. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Fine. One " Bad " list. This is the best division, Hard to sort out, Therefore it might be the worst list :conf.

    My other lists looked good mostly.
     
    Samurai's Slice, Nov 17, 2011
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  2. bad_guy

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    1. Andre Ward
    2. Lucian Bute
    3. Carl Froch
    4. Mikkel Kessler
    5. Andre Dirrell
    6. Glen Johnson
    7. Sakio Bika
    8. Robert Stieglitz
    9. George Groves
    10. Brian Magee

    Next, in no particular order: Thomas Oosthuizen, Librado Andrade, James DeGale, Kelly Pavlik, Dimitri Sartison.

    For the top 3, I don't care who is #1 or #3, they all have good arguments to be on top right now. But that will change after the Super 6.
     
    bad_guy, Nov 17, 2011
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  3. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Dirrell and Johnson over Stieglitz @168? :think... Who is Dirrell's best win? Johnson's best win is Allan Green at SMW and neither has won a title @168..
    I think that both would be able to beat Stieglitz, but in terms of resume and accomplishments, Stieglitz is a tier above Johnson and Dirrell..
     
    DanishFightfan, Nov 17, 2011
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  4. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    1. Froch
    2. Ward
    3. Kessler
    4. Bute
    5. Johnson
    6. Groves
    7. Degale
    8. Bika
    9. Oosthuizen
    10. Eubank Jr :happy
     
    lewishamboy, Nov 17, 2011
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  5. bad_guy

    bad_guy Member Full Member

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    Where are Magee and Smith? :bart
     
    bad_guy, Nov 17, 2011
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  6. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Good list.
     
    Samurai's Slice, Nov 17, 2011
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  7. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Bute too low. Froch way too high. Ward ok I guess, 1-2. Groves and Degale :rofl. Bika is ok, And Oosthuizen is ok. Eubank Jr WTF???
     
    Samurai's Slice, Nov 17, 2011
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  8. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ward
    Kessler
    Bute
    Froch
    Dirrell
    Johnson
    Stieglitz
    Abraham
    Pavlik
    Bika

    Oosthuizen
    Sartison
    Groves
    Balzsay
    Kashtanov
    :think

    How can anyone rank Froch ahead of Kessler?
    Degale lost to Groves and nearly lost to that polish nobody who has never beaten a top150 smw, Magee has never beaten a top150 as well, i don't think anyone had Rodriguez winning his last fight against some nobody besides those strange judges, his *win* over Pryor was dubious as well at the very best so he has basically never beaten anyone too i fail to understand how those guys even deserve a mention..
     
    Escopeta, Nov 17, 2011
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  9. Tyler-Durden

    Tyler-Durden Boxing Junkie banned

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    Switch Bute and Froch and I could agree. Actually if your Supermiddleweight rating is based on achievement, It should go like :
    Ward
    Froch
    Kessler
    Bute
    If it's based on abilities :
    Ward/Bute
    Kessler/Froch.
     
    Tyler-Durden, Nov 17, 2011
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  10. lewishamboy

    lewishamboy Styles Impetuous Full Member

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    The future of the SMW division :happy
     
    lewishamboy, Nov 17, 2011
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  11. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    Whatever... Chavez Jr, Pryor Jr, and Eubank Jr are not there fathers, Sure they all have potential, Let them prove it, Not their fathers.
     
    Samurai's Slice, Nov 17, 2011
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  12. Escopeta

    Escopeta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep just based on achievements trying to be fair to anyone about what they have done. thats like those ranking are done. head2head everyone can have his opinion, its more interesting but controversial and its barely possible to find some consensus. I still don't see how Froch can be ranked above Kessler though
     
    Escopeta, Nov 17, 2011
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  13. spooky

    spooky Active Member Full Member

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    now wait.... has Bute beaten anyone???? has he even fought outside of his backyard? dont put him on the top of your list. top 5 is being kind.
     
    spooky, Nov 17, 2011
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  14. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward will be one after he beats froch. I would say maybe froch will shut up but im sure he will have his list of excuses ready.
     
    Auracle21, Nov 17, 2011
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  15. spooky

    spooky Active Member Full Member

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    at the time super 6 was made... i think 5 of 6 would beat Bute. now as the best fought each other, Bute somehow goes to the top having faced no one near the top. come on
     
    spooky, Nov 17, 2011
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