Super Six final table

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by red7, Nov 29, 2010.


  1. red7

    red7 Member Full Member

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    Glenn Johnson and Abraham finished even on points, but Johnson finished above him on 'judges countback' if I recall correctly.
    Can someone explain how this tiebreaker works?
     
  2. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    No idea, wouldn't surprise me if Showtime fixed it to avoid Froch-AA II :yep
     
  3. red7

    red7 Member Full Member

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    As they didn't fight head-to-head and both had 1 KO/TKO the standings are decided by 'scorecard points'

    The following info is from Showtime:

    Scorecards*: If they remain tied after the KO/TKO test, then the seeding is determined by the total scorecard points earned by the fighters from each of their Group Stage bouts. The boxer with more scorecard points will be seeded above the other.

    *Those boxers who win prior to the final bell (via KO/TKO/DQ/Tech Decision, etc.) earn 10 points for each incomplete round. Those who lose earn 8 points in a KO/TKO round and 9 points for each subsiquent round.

    *Those boxers who win prior to the final bell (via KO/TKO/DQ/Tech Decision, etc.) earn 10 points for each incomplete round. Those who lose earn 8 points in a KO/TKO round and 9 points for each subsiquent round.


    WTF!?
     
  4. MagicMan91

    MagicMan91 The Main Event Mafia Full Member

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    Johnson took Kessler's scorecard points as he was his replacement
     
  5. red7

    red7 Member Full Member

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    thanks magicman

    i'm sure they could have been a simpler way to decide, but at least we get 2 see 2 new fights in the next round instead of a Froch v Abraham rematch
     
  6. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    seems like the fairest way to me. will always get complicated beyond points and KO's
     
  7. chrisfinch

    chrisfinch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Aye, but even avoiding all the complicated ****, surely Johnson should have finished above Abraham anyway based simply on...

    Johnson won 1, 1 ko
    Abraham won 1, 1 ko, 2 losses
     
  8. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    true but the arguement would be if Johnson had faced Dirrell and Froch would he have won?

    For me the only person to have earned there place with 3 tough fights, which is how it was advertised has be Froch.
     
  9. chrisfinch

    chrisfinch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He didn't though, did he? I see what your point is, but for me, whether he'd have won or not is irrelevant, it's not Johnson's fault he didn't get to fight them. He won the fight put in front of him.

    It's a tricky situation though, to be honest Showtime could have manoeuvured it however they wanted so it doesn't neccesarily matter.

    And your spot on about Froch in your last point.
     
  10. BoxerGaz

    BoxerGaz East Side Boxing VIP Full Member

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    to be fair its always complicated when it comes down to stuff like this. but yeah hes right what he saying!

    G
     
  11. Big Dunk

    Big Dunk Rob Palmer Full Member

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    Well i think showtime like everyone else were expecting Froch vs AA to be a quality fight which was close. If Froch had won the fight 9-3 on the cards there would have been a rematch. So it had been set up for them to rematch.

    The real shame is that if Kessler had stayed in and beaten Green, we would of seen Kessler vs Froch rematch. Bit of a shame.

    perfect scenario for me now is.

    Mar 2011 - Froch beats Johnson in Nottingham
    Oct 2011 - Froch beats Ward in Vegas
    Feb 2012 - Froch beats Bute in New York
    Sep 2012 - Froch beats Kessler in London
    Jan 2013 - Froch beats Pascal in Canada
     
  12. EnglishWay

    EnglishWay KO King 2010 Full Member

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    has soon as i heard about this rule that's what i thought.

    and it probably is the reason really.
     
  13. servo

    servo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    To be honest, even if they had to contradict the rules; we were never going to see Froch/AA 2. Like you said previously, I'm happy about having two fresh fights, no matter what the previous ruling meant.
     
  14. Alyroo

    Alyroo Active Member Full Member

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    I may have dreamt this but weren't showime pushing for 2 Semi's in March & a June final in NYC?
     
  15. ellaineo

    ellaineo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah think so, they dont want it dragging on too much longer.

    Guessing the semis will be a double-header in America somewhere then the final in the garden.

    Hope so, already saving up the trip for the final against Ward.