I know what your talking about i've seen it aswell. It makes cringe the stuff he does at times really does. I think part of why he gets away with is his power....it's not like Gerald McCLellan who would punch you and your gone...Froch hits you and it hurts and it lets fighters know to watch there step. I re watched the Taylor fight last month and when he hit Taylor you could see he was hurt by each flush shot. He uses a accumulation of shots to knockout his opponents...it's like he breaks there will and saps the fight out of them with each shot....''BONE CHILLING POWER'' as good old showtime Commentator Gus Johnson said before Taylor fight.
I voted Dirrell on points though I hope I'm wrong and Froch does a number on him. I can see The Cobra winning by TKO
yeah, Froch hit Taylor with a lot of big punches which people tend to forget and added to that gassing, Carl just looks so damn deceptive. Froch has that look if a fighter who could lose to a guy you least expect and then walk down, stalk and stop a guy he shouldn't. This is definitely not a certain pick. anything could happen and it all hinges on if Dirrell can step up and showcase facets of his game and character he hasn't shown before or hasn't had to show before. Few questions. What if Carl isn't able to bully the slicker Man...then what? Any plan B???? The kid is in much better shape than Jermaine Taylor and from my estimation he's bigger too. Secondly what If Dirrell is able to stay on his bike....than what? Is Carl just a sitting duck...meaning he's toast. Has Carl fought anyone as slick as Dirrel??? Keep going like this and I'll be starting a "I'm convinced Dirrell beats Froch" thread next
ummm yeah i worry about a plan b with Carl but he has a damn fine trainer in Robert. I think if he can't bully he has to box off jab and stalk and cut off ring and look to box with higher hands and put shots together. If Dirrell stays on bike then again i feel Carl needs to maintain the distance pressure effectively for 3 minutes a round with good footwork and draw Dirrell to lead by feinting and start to catch him with counters and hard shots or he could go with higher hands and look to lay it on Dirrell aggressively press the fight and outwork him with body shots and getting close and hustling him there's 3 ways he can go about it. He shouldn't chase Dirrell he needs to think and use his boxing brain and be smart....chasing him will only play into Dirrell's hands imo. I personally feel Dirrell is better when standing on feet and planting shots. I feel Carl needs to force him back and make him move and when he's off balance attack him. He can look sloppy when moving and i feel Carl can time him.
IMO Froch needs to pressure Dirrell (but in a controlled manner). Froch has got an excellent jab and counter punching ability too. Many seem to be convinced that Froch is a one trick pony but appearances can be deceptive....painfully deceptive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYLcZW102nE watch the first round and see the errors Dirrell makes. I feel if Froch can gain centre of ring and back him up and engage him he shows that he struggles with trading in pocket and working on inside. He looks the part when pot shotting guys who come in on train tracks. Carl must feint and maintain range...Dirrell reaches with shots...catch him with counters and make him second guess when your going to jab and throw right hand. Carl must put pressure on unsettle this kid. Before any one starts i know this fight was a while back but to be honest mr heavy bag and Oganov ain't showing nothing but to small guys getting clumped about ring.
There is no doubt in my mind that Dirrell has the ability to beat Froch. Whether he will or not is difficult to call. Carl Froch makes innumerable technical mistakes. He carries his hands low; he throws lunging, wild shots; he's often very static and moves forward slowly; he doesn't move his head. He's also pretty slow. Against this kind of fighter, a boxer can thrive. He can pick his spots and box and move. This is something Dirrell has shown an ability to do. He can pick off an opponent with a quick shot or two from the outside and move away before being caught in return. Many will point to Taylor as an example of a boxer Carl Froch broke down. I don't count this analogy as valid. Taylor doesn't fight the same way Dirrell does, especially in that Dirrell moves more, making him potentially immune to simply being walked down. Dirrell is also younger and fitter, and is unlikely to fade down the stretch - especially not to the extent which Taylor did. Dirrell might also have more pop than Taylor and seems to have more of a killer instinct to take out an opponent when they're vulnerable. The problem for Dirrell lies in his discipline. He can often get carried away with himself and throw a lot of unnecessary punches (Round 1 vs. Oganov is an example), as well as leaving himself exposed to try and slip punches as a display of skill. That is something he cannot afford to do with someone who's as strong as Froch. He also might wear himself out on Froch's chin early on and end up getting stopped late. Add this to Froch's undeniable heart, solid chin and willingness to fight through adversity, and you have a weakness ripe for exploitation. It's a tough fight to call. Considering how seriously Dirrell seems to be taking this one and inferring that he's going to fight intelligently and sensibly, I'm tempted to pick him to win a UD. Froch has a high puncher's chance.
More relevantly, that video shows that Dirrell can box and move. Froch is even slower coming forward.
I see your point he ends up boxing well in there and stopping Hamshaw. He's making mistakes there that's point of video. I think Froch has better jab and right hand then Hamshaw and footwaork is better aswell.
Can he fight any other way? Improve? He's 32 now and has always fought this way. Nerves? Getting beaten to the punch every time for best part of the fight and not knowing what the **** to do about it will get those nerves a jangling!
Its gunna be Dirrell by UD, he will outbox Froch, he has too much skill and will do to Froch what Taylor did to him for 11 rounds
Dirrell can't maintain distance and hasn't got the discipline to outbox against a pressure fighter with a very good chin like Froch, he hasn't got the pop to back him up and he's not alert enough and just not well rounded enough to fight an effective/perfect boxer/puncher fight. He's a sucker for a right cross (one of Froch's best punches) and will be eating it all night. I don't think Carl will have a tough time pursuing him and has the ability to end this with one punch. Strangely both these guys are different in style but similar in delivering their attributes...in there words they both display fundamental deficiencies, throw single punches with obvious leads, favour throwing more powerful single punches such as hooks and uppercuts, both open to counter punches etc Froch has the better ability to absorb more punishment with the better power and chin. How you can say dirrell has the more Will is beyond me, Thats one of his main unanswered questions along with his inexperience, Froch is jason the dude just keeps coming and has almost 24 rounds with Pascal and Taylor which is a wealth of experience in comparison to Dirrell who hasn't sniffed this level let alone showcasing substancial amounts of Will. Dirrell is a live underdog but needs a career defining performance to last the Distance. Watch that vid. Mandanda posted its very relevent to what we're discussing, check the ease in which he's pressured and backed up (Froch is gonna be on him late like a pack of dogs on a three-legged cat) look at the squaring up with little head movement and against Hanshaw? not to mention he's away from his element in carls backyard, not to mention this is his toughest fight to date by far, not to mention Froch is gonna take him to places he ain't been before...This is the big league and if he's going to run with the big boys he better learn how to pee in the tall grass....and QUICK! this is froch's fight.
Thats because he IS a one dimentional fighter, he's almost the epitomy of that description, where you're getting mixed up with the deceptiveness is that he's deceptive with his movement, power and speed looking like zombie esque as someone else put it....However he is a one trick pony in terms of his style.