Super Six: Froch vs Dirrell

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  1. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    I'd rather Mosley fought Berto, I saw an interview and he said that was a possbility.

    Clottey has had his chances now, he keeps doing enough to lose. I'd like to see Berto prove he's the real deal, because he's not looked like it so far.
     
  2. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Yep i agree..Josh seems to enjoy glorious failure. I think Shane if like he was against Margarito..beats Berto. I see some good stuff from Berto but it's as if he doesn't have another gear at world level that he should do. He just does enough to win. He looks the part but i think in a proper fight like against Collazo he gets beat with ease.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    That's the problem with Berto, reminds me of a young Taylor. Doesn't REALLY look like he wants to impress or really take a fight by the scruff of the neck. He'll hold, potshot, do whatever just to win. Yeah okay it works against Urango and such, but it didn't against Collazo and it won't against the big boys.
     
  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Mandanda and TFFP, I actually read this fight was close to being signed.

    My instinct tells me Mosley, but then I'm thinking maybe his win, great as it was, against Margarito is slightly sugar coating the signs of ageing we saw beforehand.....having said that Berto is not ready and my opinion of him has dwindled with every passing fight.

    looking at it stylistically, Berto's fast hands can keep Shane from setting his feet often and laying down power punches but Shane can adapt in a fight against a youngster like Berto and he's skilled enough to land the more meaningful shots imo...maybe it ends in decision but i gotta feeling Shane take's him to deep waters and drowns him with Berto taking a few big ones and going out late.

    Actually the more I think about it, the more I get worried for Andre on something i picked up in Berto vs Urango. You'll probabily recall that back handed flick jab Berto used. I hate to say it but that was an illegal punch! No doubt GBP, Nazim and Shane will have this implanted in the ref's brain even before the bell sounds. So you take away this bad habit but still second nature instinct with a point deduction, and now Berto can't work behind his bread-n-butter.

    This is going to be one of the first times that Shane will not be the one getting off first in the exchanges or the middle of the ring where Sugar Shane has made his living. But in looking at Vernon, Winky & Cotto, they all had a common denominator and that was the double, triple jab to set things up. Berto at times reverts to a Roy Jones type of stance where the only thing to follow is some type of off-balance straight or leaping type hook. This won't work against Shane.

    Another big factor is Nazim richardson, he's made a big difference to mosley, the strategy of nazim (controlling the pace with crucial clinches) against margarito made a big difference, he fought him how cotto should've, that was like cotto vs margarito with clinches and shane knowing how to nullify margarito's aggression and control the pace.

    I also get the feeling the burden of that green strap might weigh to heavily on Berto's young shoulders, it was available so they took it but might've been a little early he's just a work in progress who happens to have a shinny green strap therefore being the hunted when he maybe should've learnt how to hunt first.
     
  5. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    its Carl "zombie" Froch nothing is "almost certain"....:lol:
     
  6. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    either way this is jacobs toughest comp on paper, so we'll see if he raises his game, he's looked slightly flustered in the past, no special effects but he has a solid game.....Jacobs that is.
     
  7. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    'One Month To Go!' bump.

    Froch TKO9
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    I just can't wait for this whole thing to get started.

    outrageously still no tv deal :-(

    are you gonna be in attendence antcull?
     
  9. Primadonna Kool

    Primadonna Kool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If Carl Froch lands is uppercut, which is based on Ken's and Ryu's upper from Street Fighter...

    It's over *****, it's OVAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
     
  10. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish mate.

    I'm just a poor uni student all the way down on the south coast with no boxing mad mates :verysad
     
  11. GMR-Bristol

    GMR-Bristol New Member Full Member

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    I think that Froch has a good chance of winning this first bout. My reasons are:

    (1) FROCH HOME ADVANTAGE - Dirrell is away from home. Looking at his record on boxing rec he has never fought professionally outside of the USA. It is unknown as to whether he will cope with the occasion. Carl will have immense support as he wil be fighiting in his hometown.
    (2) FROCH FIGHT EXPERIENCE - Carl's recent resume is more impressive than Dirrells i.e. Taylor and Pascal. He is more used to getting in the trenches at the higher level.
    (3) FROCH CHIN AND HEART - This guy does not know how to lose. He has a winners mentality as displayed in his recent win over Taylor.
    (4) STAMINA - Carl has an incredible engine (reminds me of Joe Calzaghe actually) which will enable him to own Dirrell in the later rounds.

    So to prove I don't have the same bias as say Scott Gilfoid I will acknowledge that Dirrell has the speed advantage but I think this is not as big as an advantage as 1-4 above.

    I am going to this fight in November and am already looking forward to it...
     
  12. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    :rofl - You'll be a month late then Bristol Boy :lol:
     
  13. Boro chris

    Boro chris Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Previously felt that Frochs experience would pull him through but now I'm gonna say that Dirrels extra speed and class will be enough. Dirrel by clear ud.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Looking forward to this now..... gutted that the undercard is so poor though.
     
  15. GMR-Bristol

    GMR-Bristol New Member Full Member

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    DOH ! Meant October 17th. :patsch