Super Six Replacements: Who are they? Who should they be?

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  1. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    What if Hops came in and cleaned house on the whole bunch? that would be wild stuff!
     
  2. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I was hoping to see some names I didn't mention. I see a couple. Win or lose, I don't think this is something for Hopkins. People are starting to make me think that IF (big if) Williams beats Pavlik, MAYBE Williams would be an interesting (or maybe just downright cruel) replacement. And staying true to form, two more guys fighting within a good time frame along with the rest of the 168 poundes at the top, who pretty much all seem to be fighting within the next couple of months.
     
  3. Daytona00

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    Bute has better resume than at least 2 of the 6 participant (Ward, Dirrell) and has a belt and ranked in the top 5 by the serious organisation. Its obvious that he belong there but he has unfinished business with Andrade that need to be done before.
     
  4. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Williams can't carry 168 pounds at this point. He had to eat like a horse to put on enough weight to fight winky at 160.
     
  5. DStew

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    Really wild, considering the majority of the guys in the tourney would give Hopkins real trouble.

    The only ones I don't think he has a problem with are Abraham and Froch.

    The rest, due to technical skill and/or hand speed, are up in the air.
     
  6. dbouziane

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    bhop could/and i think would run the table here.

    the rest due to tech skills?? bhop is technical to the point of putting the audience to sleep and completely nullifying any strength his opponent has...speed, power, whatever. its how the man has made a living. and lets not forget that bhop would have the best resume which is saying something when you consider who taylor has been in there with. he is the best lhw in the world...think tito...
     
  7. TFFP

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    N'dam N'jikam would be a completely out there choice.
    He's a middleweight, he's still young and building slowly.

    Bute would be ideal, if not I'd settle for Andrade, and my third and fourth choices would be Bika and Green.
     
  8. DanePugilist

    DanePugilist God vs God - Death Angel Full Member

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    Bute. Andrade has already lost decisively to Kessler, and lost most rounds against Bute.

    Bute however, is a intelligent, yet timid boxer, and therefore he isn't here.

    The second choice must be Green.

    The less people that have faced each other priorly the better. Especially if one of them lost in a devastating manner.

    But I can't see them replace any of the names really. They should have been added, if they had so desired. 8 is as good a number as 6.
     
  9. Boxing in montr

    Boxing in montr Mandatory challenger Full Member

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    He'll travel if his adversary can come with 17 000 loud spectators who bought their tickets....:good
     
  10. DStew

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    I disagree.

    Hopkins has been heavily hyped since his dominant performance vs Pavlik but he's been inactive for a year now and after his two previous less-than-stellar outings against Calzaghe and Winky, there were cries for him to hang up the gloves. For all we know the performance against Pavlik could be an anomaly.

    Hopkins has already been bested by Taylor twice and while now the popular view is that Taylor is past it and Hopkins is better at LHW than he was at MW, IMO Taylor is a smarter fighter than he was when he beat Hopkins and still has the physical tools that got him the decisions the first time. Taylor doesn't need to be able to fight for 12 rounds to beat Bernard, as we've seen twice already.

    Ward and Dirrell both have the speed to really, REALLY bother Hopkins and throw off his timing. Hopkins' worst showings have come against guys who are quicker than he is with good offensive aresenals, and both Ward and Dirrell, for all their inexperience, fall into that category. They would both be very live underdogs against Hopkins, especially Ward IMO.

    Kessler gets compared to Pavlik a lot, but I think he's got better handspeed and better shot selection than Pavlik. Not to mention he's infinitely more comfortable and more experienced at the weight. He's got a better chance at landing on Hopkins than Pavlik did and while he will probably get outboxed and outfoxed for 4-5 rounds, I think Kess takes a close decision.

    Like I said, I do like Hop's chances against Abraham and Froch.

    I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me, but as much as I respect Hopkins as a boxer, it's hard to pick him against most of the guys in this field.
     
  11. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    Excellent analysis. The main reason I think 6 is better than 8 is because there are more possibilities of guys dropping out and things not going as planned.
     
  12. David Fanning

    David Fanning Internet Tuff Guy Full Member

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    I don't disagree at all (with your post). I'm a huge fan of Hopkins. Still waiting for him to age though. But the young quick quys would bother him. He could handle the Euros with ease. I'm surprised how many people here don't understand the concept of styles making fights.
     
  13. dbouziane

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    hey man opinion respected, good fair post :good

    but i would point out that bhop was killing himself to make mw by the time taylor came a callin. the amount of roadwork he had to do to continue making 160 is pretty well documented.

    and dirrell is so technically flawed at the moment i think he would be a sitting duck for the ole wily vet. dirrell has very spotty d which is not a good thing against bhop. also, if you watch any clips of his fights his footwork is also spotty and that affects his power b/c he doesnt always get set when he throws. there is a clip on youtube of him...and lord i can't remember the fight...where he flurries w/ about 20 shots w/ his man on the ropes. it looks so pretty until you realize about 5 shots in that its all flash b/c he's not getting set when he throws and the guy actually made it out of the round. the thing is dirrell is still so early on in his career he can fix these. ive said in other posts/threads that these guys are lucky that they arent facing dirrell in 4 years. dirrell isnt half the fighter now that he WILL be in the future. i like the guy personally and wouldnt put it past him to make some noise in the tourney.

    and ward....i think ward can oneday be the goods but i think he is waaaaaay to green to get in the ring with that cagy old ****.

    kess...well that would be the tough fight imo. kess has a very good skill set. i think kess would give anyone trouble he faces 168-175. i think kess should take this tourney but wouldnt discount any of these guys. bhop is the bigger man...and bhop stopped the smaller odlh w/ a body shot and joe....i repeat joe... hurt kess w/ a body shot by his own admission. that would be an interesting fight :good
     
  14. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Some ignorant comments concerning Pavlik, clearly you don't know **** and are just a hater...

    Pavlik matches up amazing against a bunch of the guys ... he would hold his own and I would favor him in many of the matchups.
     
  15. boxeo#1

    boxeo#1 Boxer-Puncher banned

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    It would be quite stupid to say Paul has no business in the ring with Kelly. Unless someones thinks it's a mismatch. I think Paul will give Kelly MORE than his hands full in this fight. His huge punch output combined with Kelly's leaky defense at times could make it a hard night for Kelly.