Super Six tie break rules and scenarios

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  1. robpalmer135

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    [url]http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/super-six-scenarios-56082?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=super-six-scenarios[/url]

    The semi-finals of the Super Six tournament will begin to shape up after the first Group Stage 3 match between Mikkel Kessler and Allan Green, and Kessler holds the key. If Kessler wins, he advances to the semi-final. A Kessler win, would also mean Andre Dirrell could not advance with a loss against Andre Ward later that night, regardless of the outcome of the Arthur Abraham-Carl Froch matchup the following week.

    On the other hand, Dirrell does control his own destiny. If he beats Ward, both he and Ward would advance regardless of any other results. It’s possible that both Abraham and Froch will have already have qualified for the semi-final depending on the previous week’s results. In any event, the winner is sure to advance regardless of what happens in other fights.

    Green could overturn the applecart with an upset win over Kessler, however having inherited Jermain Taylor’s loss Abraham coupled with his one-sided defeat against Andre Ward, he almost certainly needs a 3-point KO win over Kessler, combined with a loss by Direll against Ward or a loss by Froch against Abraham.

    There are also other possibilities that could unfold.

    The nightmare scenario would be if Green wins a decision against Kessler and Ward and Abraham also triumph. That would leave Green, Kessler, Dirrell and Froch all tied with two points. Two would advance using a system based on total scorecard points.
    Following Group Stages 1 and 2, only WBA world super middleweight champion Andre Ward has locked up one of the four coveted Semi-Final berths while no other fighter has been eliminated from contention. With the five other competitors still alive—separated by three points or less—Group Stage 3 promises to deliver the most dramatic and compelling fights of the groundbreaking tournament.

    COMPLETE TIE BREAK INFORMATION

    If two boxers are tied in points after the Group Stage bouts, the seeding will be determined as follows:
    Head-To-Head: If the tied boxers had fought each other, the winner of that bout will be seeded above the other.
    Knockouts: If the two had NOT fought head-to-head or if they fought to a draw, the boxer with the most tournament KOs/TKOs will be seeded above the other.

    Scorecards*: If they remain tied after the KO/TKO test, then the seeding is determined by the total scorecard points earned by the fighters from each of their Group Stage bouts. The boxer with more scorecard points will be seeded above the other.

    If more than two boxers are tied in points after the Group Stage bouts, the seeding will be determined as follows:
    Knockouts: The boxer with the most tournament KOs/TKOs will be seeded above the tied competitors.
    Scorecards*: If two or more boxers remain tied after the KO/TKO test, then the seeding is determined by the total scorecard points earned by the fighters from each of their Group Stage bouts. The boxers will be seeded from highest total scorecard points to the lowest.

    * Those boxers who win prior to the final bell (via KO/TKO/DQ/Tech Decision, etc.) earn 10 points for each incomplete round. Those who lose earn 8 points in a KO/TKO round and 9 points for each subsiquent round.

    ** Allan Green inherited Jermain Taylor’s scorecard points from Abraham vs. Taylor.

    Total Scorecard Points (through Group Stage 2)
    Ward……………….713
    Dirrell………………690
    Kessler…………….679
    Froch………………679
    Abraham………….677
    Green………………658

    GROUP STAGE 3 BREAKDOWN

    The Super Six World Boxing Classic continues on Saturday, Sept. 25, when SHOWTIME® presents a world championship doubleheader to kick off Group Stage 3—the final Group Stage of the round-robin portion of the tournament. First, Mikkel Kessler will look to lock up a spot in the Semi Finals when he faces Allan Green. Kessler is making the first defense of his second world title, the WBC 168-pound strap he wrested from Carl Froch last April. Green desperately needs a win to have a shot at the Semi Finals. Following his loss to Andre Ward, Green may need a knockout and/or help from his fellow competitors to earn one of the four spots.

    Immediately following, live on SHOWTIME, Ward will face 2004 U.S. Olympic teammate and friend Andre Dirrell in a highly anticipated matchup between the talented, breakout American stars. Although Ward has already locked up his Semi-Final berth as the only contestant to win both initial Group Stage matches, he promises a fierce defense of his WBA world championship belt and undefeated professional record. Dirrell, conversely, needs a win to guarantee his place in the Semis. Conceivably, Dirrell could get in with two points but he would need help from Green and/or Arthur Abraham.

    On Saturday, Oct. 2, from the city/state Principality of Monaco, Arthur Abraham and Froch will meet at the Chapiteau de l’Espace for their pivotal Group Stage 3 matchup, the last of the Group Stage bouts. Following Abraham vs. Froch, the four fighters with the highest point totals on the Super Six World Boxing Classic scoreboard will advance to the Semi Finals, tentatively slated for the first quarter 2011.

    Abraham is currently in second place with three points by virtue of his knockout victory over Jermain Taylor in Group Stage 1. But in Group Stage 2, Abraham was outboxed by Dirrell and ultimately disqualified for the first professional loss of his career. Froch remains tied with Kessler and Dirrell at two points.
     
  2. jeffjoiner

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    Thanks for the post. Really informative and helpful. I'm hoping both Ward and Dirrell make the semi's and now I know what needs to happen.
     
  3. Lampley

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    It will be a shame if Dirrell doesn't make the semifinal. I'm inclined to think the loser of Abraham/Froch will deserve it less, but I guess that depends on the nature of that fight.

    Kessler obviously won't deserve to make it (and won't) if he loses to Green, but it's hard to imagine that happening. Green is a mediocrity.
     
  4. Welsh Dragon

    Welsh Dragon Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Dirrells oscar winning performance against AA means he should go back to ****in cheatsville the cheating cry baby ****.
     
  5. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Good post , thanx for the info.
     
  6. PH|LLA

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    total scorecard points is dumb. Kessler's fight for example was stopped after 10 rounds on cuts so he misses out on 18 points even if he lost the last two round. It should be head to head result or the points difference if there is no head to head matchup.
     
  7. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    yeah, he also must have gotten the doctors at the hospital to go along with his performance because he was diagnosed with a concussion.
     
  8. DemolitionDan

    DemolitionDan ATG and HoF Full Member

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    Ah, finally an official word. Good find.
     
  9. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    That basically means Dirrell is going home. ****.
     
  10. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dirrell needs to win and he's through. Abraham only falls out if he loses and both Dirrell and Kessler wins. I'm interested if Ward is ready to do something major for his friendship. If Kessler, Dirrell and Abraham wins, it's interesting because Abraham will be through but then you'll have Kessler beating Froch, Froch beating Dirrell, Dirrell beating Ward and Ward beating Kessler. I don't see any realistic chance of Green moving through.
     
  11. TboneNYC

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    Looks like the group stage 3 round will be an exciting one,with some good matchups and tie breakers.

    Abraham/Froch and Ward/Dirrell will be good ones.
     
  12. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Doubt it.
     
  13. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    you should read it all before you post. it does exactly what you say it should and accoutns for knockout fights having less rounds.
     
  14. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    So Dirrell has to beat Ward or Froch is through?
     
  15. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I've been telling everyone this for months...