I never realised how good the Super Six tournament has the potential of being (not that the current Super Six isn't exciting or anything). For example, the next Super Six is rumoured to be the Cruiserweights...I havn't worked it out, but lets say two Cruiserweights lose their first two bouts during the group stages. These two guys (if they don't drop out) will be eliminated from the tournament. However, both will be looking to take some pride away from the tournament and potentially cause an upset. They are both against a boxer who has already qualified for the semi-finals...either one or both cause an upset and leave the tournament with one victory. How significant do you think this victory is? The boxer who lost to either boxer will be going into the semi-finals with maybe their first loss...how would this effect them?
The Super Six Format is a bit busted, all of these delays make it hard for a casual fan to follow. Would be much better if they had triple headers. But the thing I worry about with multiple Super Six tourneys is what about Up and coming boxers? Now this isn't a problem at 168, but what about some of the weight classes with real bright prospects? They would have to wait years before getting an elite fight or even a title shot.
The time that it will take to run this thing is a problem, we have seen fighters go from what seems like thier peak to shot in a shorter time then it will take for this thing to finish.
I think it should be single elim and have more competitiors say the 4 belt holders the highest rated guy for each of the 4 belts and maybe some other draws like olmpic medalists or former champs or up n comers
At first I thought so, but I think this one has shown that single elim wouldnt have been the best way to go. Dirrell and Kessler would have both been out already, and I think that Kessler is still the second favorite to win it all behind Ward, and Dirrell got jobbed in his fight with Froch. At least he still has a shot.
It's too goddamn slow for double elimination. Tournaments are supposed to be high-pace, intensity based elimination contests in every sport. It just feels like a collection of fights as it is now.
Well dram is high as points are close and almost every body is tied at 1-1 Can Dirrel beat Ward I think he can if not such a talented fighter exits Green is out by default So in my book Froch stays his chances are good a nice punch great chin high work rate 3 recipes to sucess Ward good boxer quick good D still hasnt been fully tested yet and refuses to leave his back yard I wanna see if he can smoke green if so I'll back him more Abraham is powerful has a good chin hard to hit wit hthat D and can KO you at any time just when Taylor got comfy in there and thought he was gonna make it bang Kessler good jab and cross ok foot work ok D lots of experience after Ward many wrote him off but hes not back after the last win But wait if Froch lose to Arthur he is 1-2 if Andre loses to Ward then he is 1-2 who gets the boot is there a fbox off or H2H criteria where Froch takes it due to the win
Ward refused to fight in the tournament unless "all" his fights were in his home town. Nobody has given an answer as to how Ward was allowed to cheat like that. Ward will use his famous illegal Billy Goat head butt and Ward's personal referee will allow such.
Most boxing fans are more concerned with getting the right people to the end thsan with speed of the tourney. Single elimination would suck... styles makes fights and it would therefore be pretty random who would advance. The only one with no loses is Ward. So everyone else could have been eliminated. That is just rubbish and would make such a tourney ridiculous. Anyone wanting single elim, has no understanding of styles makes fights.
In a sport where we get the top fighters from ANY division fighting each other 2-3 times a year if we're lucky, I'm not worried about the S6 timeframe
Maybe you don't have an understanding of practicality. Ofcourse it's more fair if everybody gets to fight everybody, but first of all, that's not even happening in the current super six tournament, secondly, if it would, these things would take several years, and some of these fighters might be vastly different from the fighter they were when the tournament first started because they may have drastically improved or declined due to experiences they went through during it. So how fair would that be? Bottom line is that there is no perfect way to do these things. Although you could take only 4 fighters and have them do a complete round robin. That wouldn't take longer than say, 1-1,5 years and would decrease (though not eliminate) the possibility of a fighter getting totally ruined by the tournament.
Exactly.. the two extremes are (everyone fights everyone) AND (single elimination). Why go with an extreme when theyboth have extreme draw-backs? One would take a decade and the other is complete rubbish and unfair. The current structure is a good compromise.
Ok i get your point now. I guess it's also dependent on the division in which you hold the tournament. Like i said, a total round-robin would be ok if it involved only 4 fighters. But at 168 you have a lot of guys who are at a similar level, and it would be hard to select just 4 fighters. Before the super 6 started, if one would have had to select a super 4 you would probably have gone with the most established names, Kessler, Bute, Abraham and Froch. But look at how well Ward and Dirrell have done now! I think at 140 though, a four man round robin tournament with Khan, Bradley, Alexander and Maidana would be perfect.
