Superfight Tyson Fury vs Deontay Wilder

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  1. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    It doesn't qualify as a superfight.
    And god knows if fury can be as effective.
     
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  2. OpinionOfACasual

    OpinionOfACasual Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    A superfight requires two 'top level' fighters.

    Wilder hasn't proved himself to be one.....
     
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  3. Kloppbjs

    Kloppbjs Member banned Full Member

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    LOL Americans dont clock,if Joshua dosent take out Your American Hero,Wilder.Uk got another Trump Card,no pun intended in Tyson Fury.One of these guys will Embrass Wilder which one will it be ??
     
  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wilder, Tyson's one real dangerous weakness is line of sight. Wilder's major strength is line of sight.

    What Cunningham dropped him with is a phantom overhead. Phantom because you can't predict it's trajectory by watching it's launch so when it lands it was not seen coming until too late at best. Winder's windmills are the exact same thing y'all just never bothered to look into it and wrote it off as rough even though Foreman and Marciano, literally the two heaviest hitters of all time, did the same.

    I like Tyson a lot, I think of him as the most talented HW alive, but Wilder is a dangerous fight for him. More dangerous than simply being a heavy hitter. In this case Wilder's delivery system is very much a danger as well.

    Nothing Tyson has done post Steve proves he has closed that hole in his game. Steve isn't exactly the word's greatest line of sight boxer himself. Wilder's actually good at it. Unless Fury is better at recognition he'd get hurt by the Bronze Bomber. His pivot game won't save him here as Wilder is the only other HW who can pivot worth a damn.
     
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  5. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: delusional. AJ's easy work, his ass can't even turn worth a ****. You only chance is Fury.

    Think about it and quit repeating **** you've heard. Was it talent that AJ employed while scooping himself off the canvas? Nope, that was heart and determination. There is no determining your way through Deontay. He's going to have to box and in that regard he's the shittest of the three.

    A line fighter with posture problems that saps his energy and detracts from his power. He's got serious issue to work on and the fact that he's been fast tracked to the top shows.
     
  6. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    A peak fit Fury out boxes Wilder for fun and makes him cry in desperation. Very wide UD.

    Current Fury is a punch bag for Wilder and is ko'd mid rounds.

    All depends on Fury's fitness. His game requires constant movement and so very good fitness.

    I would love to see a fit Fury teach Wilder about proper boxing.
     
  7. Kloppbjs

    Kloppbjs Member banned Full Member

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    LOL the Confidence is still thier.Support your American Hero as Big Femi is coming.Wilder got rocked by Molina.His Defence is ****,he cant throw a special windmill without going off balance,he's going to get KTFO by Joshua.It'll be soo funny when he does the spaghetti dance those bird legs will just fold.If by some miracle Wilder lands a right hand and AJ is taken out.Fury hopefully will be back and will embrass him with a Gypsy style performance.The same one you saw Saunders too.Neturalise and Counter Attacking Boxing.But it dont matter which one,Brits coming to Alabama on tour.
     
  8. Gil Gonzalez

    Gil Gonzalez Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Wilder as soon as he connects on the gypsy’s chin.
     
  9. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: As long as you lot never actually analyze the Dixie King he'll never have anything to worry about. I pray AJ goes into a fight with Wilder with the mindset you just laid out. If that's a sample of how the UK perceives AJ-Wilder i'll not be suprised by Wilder toying with him like Wilder toyed with Nipple.

    The Gypsy King is wise, he's already shared his views on the matter and it's pretty solid. Truly a battle of the titans and when the time is right I really hope it happens, but sadly as wise and mighty as our Gypsy friend is he's mistaken. Dixie is the land of boxing gods, when we come for the title we come to make history.

    Joe freakin' Louis, Ezzard Charles, Smokin' Joe Frazier, The Unforgivable Blackness Jack Johnson, Buster Mathis, Floyd Patterson, The Greatest himself Ali, Ernie Shavers, Big George Foreman, Jimmy Ellis, and Ernie Terrell. Yeah, that's right, Dixie is the land that brought you the longest reigning HW champion of all time and Dixie is the land that brought you all three king of the Golden Era, an era which we're basically responsible for ourselves. Deontay Wilder is from the land of kings and was born to reign above all pretenders. He will show you what true boxing aristocracy looks like and when all is said and done none will argue against the Dixie King as the King of Kings.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Fury would out box Wilder and knock that fake ******* out! Fury is 6 feet 9 inches tall, weights a hell of a lot more and has better skills, by far! Wilder has never fought anyone except winos from the alley!
     
  11. Kloppbjs

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    I am not saying it will be a walk in the Park.I am saying as long as AJ sticks to Boxing,and not go crazy like he did against Whyte,Breazeale for example he should KO Wilder in the exchanges.Wilder has only ever taken a Clean Shot once and that was against Molina and he still Wobbled.AJ got Dropped by Klitschko as he was Gassed out but from 1-6 took and absorbed his shots well.Against Whyte he got caught because he went crazy with the punches.He sticks to Boxing and Respect's the Lord's Power he should win comfortably.He gets into a brawl and one of those Special Windmills could lay him out on the Canvas.A Shootout in the Exchnages that is how it will go down
     
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  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    This isn't a superfight. Neither fighter is a draw.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    This :thumbsup:

    Not enough money for this fight to happen unless one of them beats Joshua first.
     
  14. It's Ovah

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    It's only a "superfight" if Fury comes in totally rusty and out of shape.

    Which is a very real possibility, TBF.
     
  15. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The baptism won't take long. Joshua has posture issues and Wilder's already accustomed to punching when his opponent punches.

    I don't dispute the idea that AJ has a better chin I dispute the idea that AJ can throw clean punches against anyone with a pulse. Why was Takam still on his feet? Because Joshua failed to land clean shots. Did Takam do anything special to provoke this? Not particularly, Joshua loses sense of posture when he exchanges so any boxer that's capable of keeping composure will be able to take his shots. How does posture affect power? Kinematic chains is how, the powerline is no longer pure, he's not connecting the energy generated by his lower half to the energy generated by his upper half sapping him of both stamina and power while nerfing his timing by forcing a gapping that isn't what he expected further limiting the amount of energy he transfers. Wilder isn't Takam, Wilder isn't even Wlad, Wilder can pivot and punch at the same time. He'll clobber Joshua.

    I'm not particularly high on Wlad's skill set either. Wlad can't pivot and punch, Wlad's a track fighter. Wlad's got no inside game and got light up on the inside by a larger man. Wlad always been kind of slow and robotic, and Wlad's never seen a bait more elaborate then a feint that he didn't bite on. Basically, yeah, AJ KO'd Wlad but the dude got touched by Samuel Peter in him prime and I wouldn't expect Ol' Petey to land anything of worth against Big D.

    A few rounds of baiting activity and letting AJ be ahead on points then wham and it's all over. The UK will say he got lucky and put their hopes into Fury until Fury suffers the same fate due to his inability to watch angles.

    Been fun bud.