Superfights That Weren't

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  1. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is so cool. I have heard so many people refer 2 his fights as if they were pure ****, and it always got on my nerves. While I agree Monzon didn't have an exciting style, guys like Briscoe, Valdez, and Benevenuti made good contrasts 2 him, and thus good match-ups as well. Watching Monzon-Benvenuti 1 again sounds like I capital idea if I do say so myself.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Essentially all of them (LOL).

    If a fight is labeled a "superfight" before the bell, it usually is far from it.

    Only a couple seemed to exceed expectations, like Ali-Frazier I or Leonard-Duran I.

    Beginning with Johnson-Jeffries, Dempsey-Carpentier, Louis-Schmeling II, Ali-Frazier II, Ali-Holmes, Leonard-Duran II and II, Mayweather-Pac, Mayweather-De La Hoya, De La Hoya-Trinidad, and on and on.

    The vast majority of the all-time great fights tend to be bouts that were great when nobody was expecting it.

    I think more fights that were considered "mismatches" going in have gone down in history as classics than bouts that were labeled as "superfights" going in actually resulted in superfights.

    So, don't get too excited about Fury-Joshua, I guess.
     
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  3. LoadedGlove

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    Blimey ! You do love to drop Terrell into a conversation don't you Billy ? Happy New Year pal.
     
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  4. William Walker

    William Walker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I do. I detest his tactics and his some of his fights. At the same time, u have 2 admire him 4 some things like his great boxing ability 4 a man his size, his ability 2 break people down simply, and his great inside work, esp. w/ those long arms! I also think he was in two really good fights and a couple more that perhaps get more flack than they should.
     
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  5. Saintpat

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    How?

    It’s IMO the greatest welterweight championship fight of all time — drama, shifts of fortune, the chess match of the combatants switching roles, telling power shots both ways.

    In what way did that fight fail to deliver?
     
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  6. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What?
     
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  7. Jel

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    Best post of the thread.
     
  8. Jel

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    Genuine superfights are very, very rare (I think some of the fights mentioned in this thread don"t really qualify - Morrison-Foreman was a 'superfight'? Really?) They are once in a generation fights, usually.

    Take the most recent genuine non-heavyweight example:
    Manny-Floyd - that was a superfight on the level of superfights of old. No surprise that it sucked.

    The three genuine non-heavyweight superfights that ended up being worthy of the name were Leonard-Duran 1, Leonard-Hearns 1 and Hagler-Hearns.
    Leonard-Hagler was memorable enough that it can't really be considered a profound disappointment (unless you're a Hagler fan).

    I think most of the ones that ended up being classics are actually ones that were maybe a notch below a genuine superfight. They were certain highly anticipated among serious boxing fans but perhaps less known among the general public:
    Pryor-Arguello 1 was a highly anticipated 'trade' fight that managed to crossed over to a degree (not to Leonard-Hearns levels though) and also exceeded expectations,
    Chavez-Taylor was probably similar.

    Joshua-Fury would have to be classed as a superfight when it eventually happens - the biggest heavyweight superfight since Lewis-Holyfield. I don't expect it be a classic and that's probably the rule of thumb - if it's labelled a superfight, it'll probably be the opposite.
     
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  9. catchwtboxing

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  10. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've read a few people refer to Leonard/Hearns (I), as not living up to expectations. Although, I honestly can't see why.

    It probably rates as my favorite fight, because I think it really did deliver on anticipation (albeit, perhaps in unexpected ways), from two of the highest performing Welterweights of all-time - undefeated and dueling in their prime.
     
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  11. salsanchezfan

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    Yeah, not getting the Leonard-Hearns shout. That's one of precious few (as Jel alludes) that actually lived up to the hype.
     
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  12. Titan1

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    There were a lot of lulls in the action mid-rounds. Maybe it was a blessing because Ray should of have Tommy out of there by the 8th.
     
  13. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't see it, it's obvioius.
     
  14. Titan1

    Titan1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It was not all action, see middle rounds.
     
  15. Bujia

    Bujia Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Neither does anyone else.