Supplements

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by gilly, Feb 25, 2010.


  1. Marcus

    Marcus Boxing Junkie banned

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  2. ashley

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  3. gilly

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    hey mate thanks for taking the time out to help.
    DIET
    9am-2 weet-bix full cream milk tea spoon suger
    10am-yogurt or a peace of friut
    1pm-sandwich on wholemeal bread ham lettus cheese avocado
    2pm-banana or choclate bar
    8pm-steak or chicken & veg 4x a week stir fry or pasta the other nights

    I drink a good 2 liters of water a day also a class of juice & cordial.i dont drink tea or coffee but i drink thos damn energy drinks about 3 a week.

    EXERCISE
    its a hard one cos its all over the place
    7am-3 x a week road runs with hill sprints total of 45mins
    MONDAY-5pm basic boxing training.skipping,shadow boxing,exercises,1kg hand weights **** load of different reps,bag work,pad work.
    TUESDAY-3pm boxing skills & drills
    WEDNESDAY-same as monday
    THURSDAY-4pm boxing skills & drills, sparring
    FRIDAY-same as monday & wednesday
    SATURDAY-bootcamp 7am sparring 4pm
    SUNDAY-6pm road work

    WALK AROUND WEIGHT WHEN TRAINING 64KG
    FIGHTING WEIGHT 61.23KG
    I find it hard to eat from about 3pm onwards because i am at the gym training people then training myself till 7pm.
    I was thinking of having smoothies to help with a better diet.what would be best to put in them?
     
  4. ashley

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    I dont think your eating enough mate with all that training
     
  5. ranser

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    what city u from?
     
  6. gilly

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    brisbane.whys that?
     
  7. ashley

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    Hey Andriy...did you say the "body different" thing because of the fat content of the cream, butter, oil......on all of my meals?
     
  8. Sox

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    This is what I would do.

    See above.
    I have a smoothie like I mentioned above every morning, that's my breakfast.

    Forget the supplements, they are all ****.
     
  9. 20a87

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    Ice cream? (14 scoops a week???) He has a weight class and is an athlete, he's not a body builder. His day seven is roadwork, if its a steady state run that's fine active rest is good.

    It's true diet is the most important but when you are training 2 or 3 times a day supplementation is beneficial cod liver oil, whey etc. The body needs the extra vitamins etc

    Run things by your coach or by someone not on the internet.
     
  10. Dr Gonzo

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    thats rubbish and you know it, that diet you guys are discussing has NOWHERE NEAR enough protein to be workout out 7 days a week...he should be at least taking a few whey protein shakes a day to get enough to keep him going. All the fruit and veges are good but where are his carbs and protein coming from? steak once a day? i reckon protein powder in the smoothie and also a shake post training to aid recovery

    alot of suppliments are crap, but alot of them are awesome, and thats coming from someone who has studied medicine and understands their role in the body. It is simple science, to build muscle you need to provide it with protein which become amino acids. He simply will not be getting enough and will eventually over train and burn out

    look at Pac at the moment. He hates any form of suppliment but Freddy Roach has him on 7000 calories a day and 5 shakes to give him enough fuel to go hard day in and day out (also to help him stay at 147)
     
  11. Sox

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    I should have elaborated there. (I edited it)
    I have 2 scoops because I'm not chasing ultimate leanness and I like it like a thick shake.
    He wouldn't need the 2 scoops, either one, half, or none.
    I always like a good days rest, YMMV.
    Bull****.
    Supplements are never neccesary if your diet is up to scratch.
    The body can get everything it needs, and then some, from good diet.
    I would agree with that in an ideal world, however even coach's and people not on the internet have agendas.
     
  12. Sox

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    No one but the guys involved really know what these guys are on..... PED's anyone?
    In any case, these supplements would only be mentioned because of $$, nothing more. There's a lot of money at stake here.
     
  13. Dr Gonzo

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    mate the bioflex site looks ****ing great... im going to buy your mass gainer and pre workout energy suppliment biocharge. So freakin cheap man!
     
  14. 20a87

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    I don't really agree with any of this. The vitamin intake achievable through supplementation is vast and if you attempted to mimic it with food you would pay a significant price in calorie intake which again hampers weight. I strongly advocate diet as the be all and end all to the average health nut or gym goer there are nothing wrong with certain supplements even to them. Everyone has an agenda but someone like his coach knows him, his weight, body type etc and hopefully has a vested interest in his performances.

    At Gilly or any other boxers:

    I notice you do a lot of work prior to sparring, do you feel tired or sloppy in sparring because of it? I'm not sure whether Australia tends to operate its gyms like the US (open all day) or like the Uk (generally timetabled hours for ams)? I've boxed in gyms that make you spar fresh which I am a big fan of as all supplemental exercise on other days should be about improving actual ability/fitness in the ring and I've also boxed at gyms that put you through the mill before sparring which I hate.
     
  15. Sox

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    Good for you, you're blinded by advertising and misinformation.
    Everything a supplement company hopes for.
    Utter nonsense.
    Firstly the supposed vitamin intake of supplements is not all utilised by our body.
    And secondly, the vitamins are only part of what comes from good food. Supplements can't begin to provide the nutrition and goodness which real food can.
    And you know that how? You know the long term and even short term side effects of all the supplements available? Of course you don't.
    And even his coach has an agenda. Do you have any idea how big the supplement industry is? Who do you think they target?

    As I said in a earlier post, the only people who will give you the truth are the ones in the game who are NOT involved with supplement companies.
    The rest are just lining their pockets.