Suppose for the sake of argument: Pac is taking PEDs

It would have been reasonable for the Mayweathers and *****s to have legitimate concerns about Pac's remarkable performance in ascending through the weight classes.

What makes their PEDs accusations stupid is that they themselves destroy their arguments for Pac's PED use by undermining his victories over DLH (drained), Hatton (over-rated), Cotto (destroyed by Margs), Clottey (fixed fight) and Margarito (slow and made-to-order style).

If Pac had been cherry-picking drained, over-rated, old and slow opponents in his last few fights, then his victories wouldn't and shouldn't be viewed as being praiseworthy. Thus, there are no grounds to suspect that he is taking PEDs because he is simply benefiting from good matchmaking.

On the other hand, Pac's victories should only be "suspicious" to the Mayweathers and their ilk if they viewed his victories as being stupendous, which they obviously deny.

It is the fact that they want to have it both ways (mediocre performance and PED use) that their fear, jealousy and irrationality are exposed for the world to see.

 

Pac's victories have been impressive no doubt, look there will always be people who will blindly discredit boxers they don't like. It is possible to be a Mayweather fan and think Pac is very talented and has put in some great performances.

However I don't see how someone cannot be suspicious of a boxer refusing to agree to random drug testing. If they are clean and have nothing to hide what possible reason do they have to not do the testing?

If you put all issues surrounding pacquiao and mayweather to one side surely in a general sense you must agree that better more stringent drug testing is a good and desirable thing? That goes for any sport but especially a violent and dangerous one like boxing.

 

shut up you ****ing ******..

 

noob

 

:nut


I hate doing this since I broke 1,000 posts and RARELY say this to anyone. But go ****ing kill yourself immediately, you're a mistake and the world would be better off without you....

:kenny

 

Because he can walk through punches and punishment to get to his target. That makes it unfair. Its a bull**** excuses on both fighters part really. Why if you could make 40 million would you avoid a blood test to fight Antonio Margarito? It makes no sense however you spin it other than both fighters really dont want to fight each other and thats probably the truth.

 

nicely put!

Either he's a supherhuman freak pumped on PEDs and will kick your ass, or he's a mediocrity that has beaten a few has-beens and nothing to be impressed by.

But he can't be both.

 

Freddie Mendez alias for Freddie Roach? Just a little joke.

 

I don't get the question....

I'm not a *******, I'm a guy who is curious to see Floyd and Pac get in the ring because it would be an awesome fight/spectacle.

 

So you think its entirely Mayweathers fault?

Really sacrifices are made on both sides when it comes to these mega fights. I suspect Manny is a bit wary of the fight himself, reason he asked for a 10 million dollar fine for each pound overweight and wont bend on Mayweathers blood testing request, no?

 

I agree that Pac doesn't seem overenthused about the fight either. For instance, after all these post-fight interviews why doesn't he call out Floyd?
Not his style, it guess.

 

I blame Pacquiao 60/40 for the breakdown in the first negotiations. Obviously since then, I put the blame on Floyd.

All the evidence points to him not wanting the fight. Including his own words and the bizarre denial of negotiations.

 

Mannys not stupid. He spars with guys in the gym who run and counterpunch and make a tough day for him. He knows Floyd represents a very tough fight stylistically. He wants guys who stand in front of him so he can hit them, and thats exactly what theyve been picking. He can awe the crowd by chopping down these big strong guys, but maybe he struggles a bit facing a counterpuncher so hes a bit hesistant to take the fight? These guys can very easily derail a megafight. I dont think Manny is on PED's, but I also think both fighters are a bit hesitant to ruin their recent megastardom or perceived seniority by losing a possible one sided fight, which most of these type of stylistic matchups produce.

 

both guys are acting rationally, sad to say. It's a winner take all situation where both guys feel they're already on top -- so why risk losing it all?

 

You mean irrationally and I agree with you, and I think this is really the main reason, but at some point the money is going to be too big not to take and I suspect it will be soon at the rate both blow their income.