What advantage? Let's see the evidence. Show me a fight where the result would have been different because of roids - I mean concrete PROOF, not speculation. There's no way to prove it, therefore it shouldn't even factor in to HOF calculations.
casamayour over calzaghe and toney:nut. The thing is i have to do some more reaserch on toneys use of steroids. I guess seeing as you have mosley as a shoe in, toney just hasnt had a good enough career??nuthuh:huh:huh:huh:bart
In a more strict hall of fame Vargas probably wouldn't get in... but go checkout some of the names in the Boxing Hall of Fame. You'll see that all you really have to be is a name fighter in your generation to be inducted. Wouldn't surprise me at all if someone like Micky Ward got in as well... the standards are just that low.
after the leonard era Whitaker Chavez Jones Lewis Holyfield Hopkins Pacquiao Mayweather Lopez De La Hoya Trinidad Mosley Nelson Morales Barrera Calzaghe Tyson JM Marquez McCallum Galaxy Toney Fenech Tszyu Wright Tapia Carbajal Camacho Vitalai K Wladimir K Alvarez Eubank Michalczewski Vazquez R. Marquez Gonzales Canizales Mitchell Zaragoza Norris Castillo Casamayor Corrales 80% Chance Benn Hamed J. Jackson McClellan Chang Bowe Zapata 50-50 Chance Gatti Haye Otkke Cotto Campbell Darchinyan Hatton Tarver G. Johnson Calderon Vargas Rosario M. Taylor Quartey Medina Montiel
This list is way way way too permissive. There are a lot of guys on this list that have been eligible for years and still haven't gotten in, including everyone on the 80% list.
^^^that's why i put them in the 80% bracket they have already been snob so they have no guarantee that they can make it... it just pisses to see norris and mitchell made it while leaving the likes of jackson, benn and mcclellan who do you think from the 100% bracket should be downgraded?
actually, a lot of fighters can get in. the boxing HOF is not known for its high standards. being considered as an ATG is a much bigger honor than being a HOFer.
Absolutely - at the very least Benn should be there over Mitchell. Off your list, I'd downgrade Tszyu (50%), Vitali (50%), Wladimir (80%), Eubank (I wouldn't have him up there at all frankly - he's more like hall of very good), Vasquez (80%), R. Marquez (50%), J. Marquez (80%), Castillo (80%), Casamayor (50%) and Corrales (50%). Obviously the 50/50 list could be much longer as well, especially in respect of some of the 80's Koreans who haven't been recognized at all yet but there's been a movement to get them in. I would hope that Bowe doesn't have an 80% chance of getting in, but sadly he probably will based on his name and a couple of big wins. Moorer is another one you didn't mention that probably is around 80%. Michalczweski is a good one that all of us missed. He's a lock. Virgil Hill is another one that all of us have missed, who probably goes in the 50% category at least.