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@lufcrazy

I noticed you left out Hearns in your welterweight list bud. I’m assuming that was a mistake?

 

@70sFan865 @BitPlayerVesti @Seamus @janitor

 

H2H beast at WW, absolutely.

But he's a million miles away from The WW great imo. There's actually a few more I'd be placing above him tbh.

 

That being said my list isn't absolutely concrete.

I'll be amending it between now and the deadline depending on what I see, look into and am convinced by.

So when I say Hearns is a million miles away from being a great WW, I mean in my head right now.

 

Good stuff man, I just wanted to double check. I also like Wlad at 6 on your heavyweight list!

 

I think he's massively under rated tbh. I'm excited to see everyone's lists and spot anomalies etc and whether or not I agree with those.

 

Got me doubting my view of Memphis Moore and Pete Herman now!

 

FLY
1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Miguel Canto
3. Pascual Pérez
4. Midget Wolgast
5. Frankie Genaro
6. Benny Lynch
7. Pone Kingpetch
8. Pancho Villa
9. Masao Oba
10. Betulio Gonzalez
11. Horacio Accavallo
12. Chartchai Chionoi
13. Hiroyuki Ebihara
14. Fidel LaBarba
15. Sot Chitalada

BANTAM
1. Eder Jofre
2. Ruben Olivares
3. Manuel Ortiz
4. Panama Al Brown
5. Fighting Harada
6. Lionel Rose
7. Kid Williams
8. Memphis Pal Moore
9. Pete Herman
10. Carlos Zarate
11. Rafael Herrera
12. Joltin Jeff Chandler
13. Chucho Castillo
14. Sixto Escobar
15. Bud Taylor

FEATHER
1. Willie Pep
2. Sandy Saddler
3. Vicente Saldivar
4. George Dixon
5. Abe Attell
6. Salvador Sanchez
7. Eusebio Pedroza
8. Alexis Arguello
9. Henry Armstrong
10. Johnny Kilbane
11. Freddie Miller
12. Terry McGovern
13. Tony Canzoneri
14. Sugar Ramos
15. Danny Lopez

LIGHT
1. Benny Leonard
2. Joe Gans
3. Roberto Duran
4. Carlos Ortiz
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Ike Williams
7. Packey McFarland
8. Tony Canzoneri
9. Bob Montgomery
10. Lou Ambers
11. Joe Brown
12. Sammy Mandell
13. Sammy Angott
14. Freddie Welsh
15. Henry Armstrong

WELTER
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Jose Napoles
3. Sugar Ray Leonard
4. Kid Gavilan
5. Emile Griffith
6. Henry Armstrong
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr
8. Jack Britton
9. Tommy Hearns
10. Mickey Walker
11. Joe Walcott
12. Barney Ross
13. Ted Kid Lewis
14. Luis Manuel Rodriguez
15. Tommy Ryan

MIDDLE
1. Harry Greb
2. Carlos Monzon
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Bernard Hopkins
5. Sugar Ray Robinson
6. Stanley Ketchel
7. Charley Burley
8. Mike Gibbons
9. Jake LaMotta
10. Tommy Ryan
11. Holman Williams
12. Freddie Steele
13. Mickey Walker
14. D!ck Tiger
15. Bob Fitzsimmons

LIGHT HEAVY
1. Ezzard Charles
2. Archie Moore
3. Harry Greb
4. Gene Tunney
5. Michael Spinks
6. Tommy Loughran
7. Bob Foster
8. Jimmy Bivins
9. Matthew Saad Muhammad
10. John Henry Lewis
11. Harold Johnson
12. Tommy Gibbons
13. Jack Delaney
14. Roy Jones Jr.
15. Billy Conn

HEAVY
1. Joe Louis
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Larry Holmes
4. Lennox Lewis
5. Wladimir Klitschko
6. George Foreman
7. Rocky Marciano
8. Joe Frazier
9. Evader Holyfield
10. Mike Tyson
11. Jack Johnson
12. Sonny Liston
13. Jack Dempsey
14. Vitali Klitschko
15. Riddick Bowe

ALL TIME BEST
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Harry Greb
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Sam Langford
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Bob Fitzsimmons
7. Jimmy Wilde
8. Willie Pep
9. Joe Louis
10. Muhammad Ali
11. Roberto Duran
12. Archie Moore
13. Benny Leonard
14. Joe Gans
15. Barney Ross
16. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
17. Sugar Ray Leonard
18. Mickey Walker
19. Tony Canzoneri
20. George Dixon
21. Manny Pacquiao
22. Terry McGovern
23. Julio Cesar Chavez
24. Pernell Whitaker
25. Roy Jones Jr.

 

I am going to have to think long and hard before posting, great thread.

 

No John Henry?

 

FLY
1. Jimmy Wilde
2. Pancho Villa
3. Miguel Canto
4. Pascual Perez
5. Frankie Genaro
6. Midget Wolgast
7. Benny Lynch
8. Fidel LaBarba
9. Betulio Gonzalez
10. Fighting Harada
11. Peter King
12. Pone Kingpetch
13. Santos Laciar
14. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
15. Mark Johnson

BANTAM
1. Eder Jofre
2. Ruben Olivares
3. Carlos Zarate
4. Terry McGovern
5. Panama Al Brown
6. Manuel Ortiz
7. George Dixon
8. Kid Williams
9. Pete Herman
10. Fighting Harada
11. Joe Lynch
12. Sixto Escobar
13. Rafael Marquez
14. Memphis Pal Moore
15. Johnny Coulan

FEATHER
1. Willie Pep
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Sandy Saddler
4. Abe Attell
5. Salvador Sanchez
6. Kid Chocolate
7. Alexis Arguello
8. Johnny Kilbane
9. Johnny Dundee
10. Vincente Saldivar
11. George Dixon
12. Jim Driscoll
13. Freddie Miller
14. Baby Arizmendi
15. Euesbio Pedroza

LIGHT
1. Roberto Duran
2. Benny Leonard
3. Joe Gans
4. Ike Williams
5. Pernell Whitaker
6. Tony Canzoneri
7. Henry Armstrong
8. Freddie Welsh
9. Carlos Ortiz
10. Julio Cesar Chavez
11. Patty McFarland
12. Shane Mosley
13. Battling Nelson
14. Barney Ross
15. Sammy Angott

WELTER
1. Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Ray Leonard
4. "Barbados" Joe Walcott
5. Jose Napoles
6. Kid Gavilan
7. Barney Ross
8. Floyd Mayweather
9. Emile Griffith
10. Thomas Hearns
11. Jack Britton
12. Jimmy McLarin
13. Ted "Kid" Lewis
14. Carmen Basillo
15. Tito Trinidad

MIDDLE
1. Harry Greb
2. Ray Robinson
3. Marvin Hagler
4. Carlos Monzon
5. Bob Fitzsimmons
6. Mickey Walker
7. Stanley Ketchel
8. Tiger Flowers
9. Bernard Hopkins
10. Mike Gibbons
11. Dick Tiger
12. Freddie Steele
13. Charles Burley
14. Jake LaMotta
15. Marcel Cerdan

LIGHT HEAVY
1. Ezzard Charles
2. Sam Langford
3. Archie Moore
4. Gene Tunney
5. Michael Spinks
6. Bob Foster
7. Tommy Loughran
8. Billy Conn
9. Maxie Rosenbloom
10. Jimmy Bivins
11. Roy Jones Jr.
12. Harry Greb
13. Matthew Saad Muhammad
14. Harold Johnson
15. Jack Delaney

HEAVY
1. Muhammad Ali
2. Joe Louis
3. Larry Holmes
4. Rocky Marciano
5. Jack Johnson
6. George Foreman
7. Joe Frazier
8. Lennox Lewis
9. Evander Holyfield
10. Jack Dempsey
11. Gene Tunney
12. Sonny Liston
13. Harry Willis
14. Mike Tyson
15. Ezzard Charles

ALL TIME BEST
1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Harry Greb
4. Joe Louis
5. Henry Robinson
6. Carlos Monzon
7. Willie Pep
8. Sugar Ray Leonard
9. Benny Leonard
10. Jack Johnson
11. Barney Ross
12. Marvin Hagler
13. Rocky Marciano
14. Ezzard Charles
15. Manny Pacquaio
16. Alexis Arguillo
17. Mickey Walker
18. Gene Tunney
19. George Foreman
20. Tony Canzoneri
21. Sandy Saddler
22. Sam Langford
23. Gene Tunney
24. Archie Moore
25. Pernell Whitaker