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Hey, @Ra's Al-Ghul ...
I have some opinions which may seem odd compared to those I see on most others' lists (I have Liston high and Marciano low at HW, Walker very high at WW, Armstrong higher at FW than WW, Jimmy Barry on my FlyW list, etc., etc.,), but those are my strong feelings and convictions.
Yeah, people will give me **** for them sometimes, but that's all part of the fun. Just update your lists. Don't be contrary for the sake of it, because you're only taking the fun out of what should be an interesting exercise (and a task which the OP is working much harder than any of us on).
Not having a go at you, at all. And I don't want it to sound that way.
Just saying...

 

He beat Canto and with Midget, I've tried, believe me I've tried, but I don't see it. In terms of him being a great flyweight.

Maybe there's something I've missed, but I just don't see it.

 

But I don't think he did though, most of his wins were at BW or above the limit weren't they?

 

You know what it is, it's the poor records of the ranked contenders he'd beaten, I obviously skimmed past those names without understanding their relevance.

Guys like Marty Gold, Phil Tobias for example.

But yes, if I look at the rankings, I see most of the names there are people he's beaten.

See, I told you there was something I'm missing.

Cheers.

 

Haha does that mean there's more names that don't sit right with you?

Feel free man, critiques are welcome.

 

Man some of this flyweight records are so deceptive in the 20s.

By deceptive I mean, journeyman looking records belonging to world rated fighters.

I'd obviously seen the obvious victories of Schwartz, Bill and Davies, but didn't think there was enough meat behind it.

So in essence you helped me find the meat.

For that I'll be forever grateful.

 

The main thing I’m concerned about is how low I have Dempsey at heavyweight, yet have Johnson so high. Both of their title reigns were pretty damn abysmal, although Dempsey’s slightly better. The reason I have Dempsey so low is that he missed out on the top 2 contenders of his era, yet Johnson arguably missed out on the top 3, but I give him a bit of a pass because he’d already beaten them. Feels like a bit of a brain fart and I think it’s exposed my own biases to me.

 

I’m going to stand pat (no pun intended).

I could look at mine and fidget and move them around all day and night and by the next day I’d probably be back about where I was when I started second-guessing.

I could also rank them again six months from now and come up with a few who I view completely differently. That’s where having a lot of voters to absorb the anomalies comes in.

 

I can't lie - I don't find bantams or flys interesting or exciting to watch.

 

hmmm...I kinda feel that way about the fat slob or HW division