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Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Rumsfeld, Jun 22, 2020.


  1. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    You're covered, but if it is not too much trouble (and you see this before I close the thread), please edit this back into your first post. (Or edit your other 2 lists here with these 7)

     
  2. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    As far as I can tell at the moment I have 23 complete submissions.

    NOTES TO SELF...

    1. Jel (C)
    2. lufcrazy (C)
    3. Webbiano (C)
    4. George Crowcroft (C)
    5. McGrain (C)
    6. PhillyPhan69 (C)
    7. TheMikeLake (C)
    8. Jester (C)
    9. Gudetama (C)
    10. choklab (C)
    11. salsanchezfan (C)
    12. asero (C)
    13. Saintpat (C)
    14. Mendoza (C)
    15. dmt (C)
    16. TBooze (C)
    17. mcvey (C)
    18. Bulldog24 (C)
    19. Clinton (C)
    20. William Walker (C)
    21. 88Chris05 (C)
    22. Man_Machine (C)
    23. Johnny_B (C)
     
  3. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    FLY
    1. Jimmy Wilde
    2. Fidel LaBarba
    3. Midget Wolgast
    4. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
    5. Little Pancho
    6. Little Dado
    7. Horacio Accavallo
    8. Jackie Patterson
    9. Mark Johnson
    10. Benny Lynch
    11. Newsboy Brown
    12.Yuri Arbachakov
    13. Salvatore Burruni
    14. Emile Pladner
    15. Pascual Perez

    BANTAM
    1. Nonito Donaire
    2. Rodolfo Casanova
    3. Al Brown
    4. Eder Joffre
    5. Manuel Ortiz
    6. Rafael Marquez
    7. Ruben Olivares
    8. Carlos Zarate
    9. Peter Kane
    10. Veeraphol Sahaprom
    11. Guillermo Rigondeaux
    12. Naoya Inoue
    13. Pete Sanstol
    14. Jeff Chandler
    15. Shinsuke Yamanaka

    FEATHER
    1. Sandy Sadler
    2. Willie Pep
    3. Al Brown
    4. George Dixon
    5. Alexis Arguello
    6. Fighting Harada
    7. Salvador Sanchez
    8. Carlos Zarate
    9. Terry McGovern
    10. Ernesto Marcel
    11. Abe Attell
    12. Young Corbett II
    13. Eusebio Pedroza
    14. Henry Armstrong
    15. Kid Chocolate

    LIGHT
    1. Roberto Duran
    2. Pernell Whittaker
    3. Benny Leonard
    4.Tony Canzoneri
    5. Henry Armstrong
    6. Willie Joyce
    7. Joe Brown
    8. Alexis Arguello
    9. Packy McFarland
    10. Ike Williams
    11. Carlos Ortiz
    12. Beau Jack
    13. Joe Gans
    14. Kid Lavigne
    15. Sugar Shane Mosley

    WELTER
    1. Sugar Ray Robisnon
    2. Ray Leonard
    3. Jose Napoles
    4. Floyd Mayweather
    5. Kid Gavilan
    6. Tommy Hearns
    7. Manny Pacquaio
    8. Barney Ross
    9. Jack Britton
    10. Henry Armstrong
    11. Fritzie Zivic
    12. Mickey Walker
    13. Emile Griffith
    14. Oscar Delahoya
    15. Felix Trinidad

    MIDDLE
    1. Carlos Monzon
    2. Harry Greb
    3. Sugar Ray Robinson
    4. Marvin Hagler
    5. Bob Fitzsimmons
    6. Dick Tiger
    7. Bernard Hopkins
    8. Charlie Burley
    9. Tommy Gibbons
    10. Jake LaMotta
    11. Marcel Cerdan
    12. Gennady Golovkin
    13. Emile Griffith
    14. (Nonpareil) Jack Dempsey
    15. Stanley Ketchel

    LIGHT HEAVY
    1. Ezzard Charles
    2. Archie Moore
    3. Gene Tunney
    4. Michael Spinks
    5. Bob Foster
    6. Harry Greb
    7. Roy Jones junior
    8. John Henry Lewis
    9. Sam Langford
    10. Harold Johnson
    11. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    12. Billy Conn
    13. Bob Fitzimmons
    14. Tommy Loughran
    15. George Carpentier

    HEAVY
    1. Muhammad Ali
    2. Joe Louis
    3. Lennox Lewis
    4. George Foreman
    5. Rocky Marciano
    6. Larry Holmes
    7. Joe Frazier
    8. Mike Tyson
    9. Sonny Liston
    10. Wladimir Klitsche
    11. Jack Dempsey
    12. Jack Johnson
    13. Evander Holyfield
    14. Ezzard Charles
    15. Harry Wills

    ALL TIME BEST
    1. Sugar Ray Robinson
    2. Sam Langford
    3. Harry Greb
    4. Muhammad Ali
    5. Roberto Duran
    6. Hank Armstrong
    7. Bob Fitzsimmons
    8. Willie Pep
    9. Joe Louis
    10. Ezzard Charles
    11. Roy Jones Junior
    12. Joe Gans
    13. Sugar Ray Leonard
    14. Floyd Mayweather
    15. Manny Pacquaio
    16. Archie Moore
    17. Mickey Walker
    18. Pernell Whittaker
    19. Packy McFarland
    20. Rocky Marciano
    21. Barney Ross
    22. Marvin Hagler
    23. Jimmy Wilde
    24. Tommy Hearns
    25. Gene Tunney
     
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  4. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Thanks @cuchulain

    Wasn't sure which way you were leaning! Glad to see you participating!
    :thumbsup:
     
  5. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I've put all the lists in one place.
    Is that ok Rumsfeld ?
     
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  6. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hi Rummy.

    I decided to do a COMPLETE list, despite what I mentioned earlier regarding the 'little fellas.'
    I have to admit to much consultation with Boxrec for the first two divisions and parts of the third. :D
     
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  7. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yes! Thank you for that. :thumbsup:
     
  8. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    SURVEY CLOSED!

    Thanks to all who participated!


    1. Jel (C)
    2. lufcrazy (C)
    3. Webbiano (C)
    4. George Crowcroft (C)
    5. McGrain (C)
    6. PhillyPhan69 (C)
    7. TheMikeLake (C)
    8. Jester (C)
    9. Gudetama (C)
    10. choklab (C)
    11. salsanchezfan (C)
    12. asero (C)
    13. Saintpat (C)
    14. Mendoza (C)
    15. dmt (C)
    16. TBooze (C)
    17. mcvey (C)
    18. Bulldog24 (C)
    19. Clinton (C)
    20. William Walker (C)
    21. 88Chris05 (C)
    22. Man_Machine (C)
    23. Johnny_B (C)
    24. cuchulain (C)
     
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  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @Rumsfeld needs to commit to doing this every 10 years for the next century or so and we can call it the BoxingForum24 Census.
     
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  11. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    most of these lists are excellent. But, Roy Jones should not just be rated at Light Heavyweight. He was arguably at his best at middleweight. He comfortably beat Hopkins at that weight, and, would likely decimate many of the middleweights listed above.
     
  12. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I had RJJ on my list at 175. Why do you think he should not be rated?
     
  13. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’m so excited to see @Rumsfeld ranked me in his personal all-time top 15. And has me listed as champ.

    You can see I beat out some of our best posters, as well as @Mendoza, which I took as a pity ranking by Rummy.

    :campeon:
     
  14. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hey Saintpat,
    It isn't that I don't think Jones should be rated at Light Heavy. Most lists had him rated appropriately at that weight. I just think he should have been rated at middleweight, as well. He was a force of nature at middleweight. He was less dominant at L.H.
     
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  15. ChrisJS

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    Part of the reason I don’t like mythical matches is that Jones would never have been a middleweight in previous eras.