Sven Ottke award

Ottke is an ATG and a certified G. Even though his reign of terror ended in 2004, haters are salty to this day. That speaks volumes.

 

Ottke is like Ward for sure because his pro record does have 0 lost pro fights.
This is important.

 

The award should go to Floyd Mayweather.

He had only 1 KO in his last 10 fights, and that one was a sucker punch against Ortiz.

 

Oh make no mistake- I think JC would have been a huge nightmare match up for Ottke.
Fast southpaw who throws in bunches with a solid chin.
And for the record I think Ward is much better the Ottke as well.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Harry Greb an exciting pressure fighter? His nickname is the Human Windmill for his endless torrents of punches raining on his opponents right? The guy ranked very high in many greatest MW champions ever poll, many in the top 3.

 

That's interesting, maybe Ward wasn't as good as I think he is. No.1 SMW of all time is still Calzaghe, no question.

 

Now back to the main topic, I add another contender for the award:
Ivan Calderon, long-reigning WBO mini flyweight and light flyweight champion, record 35-3-1, with 6 KO.

 

I think multi-weight champions should get a pass, many of them lose power when going up in weight. Floyd, for example, was an excellent puncher in superfeatherweight and lightweight. Pacquiao only got 2 kos out of 15 wins in welterweight.

 

Who knows. Who alive has seen him? They said he was awkward. He had a difficult style. No power. Beat a lot of names. Knew how to win. But many didn't want to fight him because it was difficult to look good against him. Nobody saved Greb's fights. Probably because nobody cared to watch them again. He had his fans. But probably not the most entertaining guy in the ring.

How would people describe Ottke? No power. Difficult style. Beat a lot of names. Knew how to win. But many didn't want to fight him because he was difficult to look good against. Nobody watches Ottke's fights these days because nobody wants to watch them again. He had his fans. But not the most entertaining guy in the ring.

 

Yeah there is no surviving films on Greb's fight, but a guy who beat 18 HOFers should be really good. People describe him as a "perpetual motion machine", sound pretty awesome. Jake LaMotta didn't have many KO's to his name but he sure is an exciting swarmmer.

 

Tried to explain to someone once that there are good fighters out there who can't punch. It went over his head.

 

Well, there are multiple factors if someone mover up in weight class.
1. not rare cases when he is older than his opponents in next weight class, with longer mileage ( training, fights ) under belt.
2. opponents are heavier, if they do not have long mileage under belt, also more fresh than this boxer.

Injuries are different factor, boxer with very high KO % might turn into boxer with medium or low KO % when he is coming after hands injuries.

Floyd too had not only moved up in weight classes, he also was older and with longer mileage under belt+ looks that had f****ed upp hands.
I might bring up one notable example from Euro boxing : Papp was 3X Olympic Gold medalist with pro like boxing style and before he had damaged hands, he racked at least 55 stoppage wins in amateur ranks, a lot of them in 1 st round.
After fuc*** up hands he still had some stoppage wins in pro ranks but this was not the same Papp any more.
BTW even when he get 3 rd Olympic Gold medal, this was lad with damaged hands.

 

That looks very honest posting

 

Got nothing to do with it, averages in each division aren't really that far apart, not like most rank and file super middles have 80% KO percentages while their 135lb equivalents only have a quarter of that. Myth that as you go up in weight classes the stoppages increase radically. More gradual, you'd have to compare the polar extremes of heavy or cruiser with straw or light fly to notice a huge difference.

+ Cuenca fought lots of gimmes, Ottke fought a very consistently high level (at least top 15 contenders) for quite a while tbf.

I demand satisfaction. ¡César René Cuenca Foil Ball Fist Award, por favor!