Sven Ottke: Das Super Middleweight All Time Great-The Phantom Of The Spandau Ballet.

Calzaghe came to Germany to beat up Mario Veit. Why didn't Calzaghe come to Berlin to beat up Ottke? :yep

 

Ottke didn't want to fight calzaghe. Even in Germany. I agree he should be in the hall of fame. Nothing wrong with being the second best super middleweight

 

CST which fights did you think he deserved to lose?

Poor reffing aside I actually thought he just shaved Mitchell on points when i watched it

 

Spandau Ballet

 

Ottke was infinitely better than Gatti. It's not even comparable.

HOF is not the ultimate recognition of someone's greatness. At times it is not even relevant.

 

Here's one judges opinion on Ottke's HOF worthiness:

"However, at least four of his title fights reeked of overly-friendly judging (Mads L****n, both Charles Brewer fights and Robin Reid). Had Ottke lost any of those fights, as many felt he should have, what effect would that have had on his standing? Those doubts were too much for me to affix the checkmark."

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/news/359617-the-ibhof-class-of-2015-how-i-voted-and-why

 

mads larson fight was close i will see if i do a search what i scored it on my r by r
brewer won the first IMO
lost the second fight IMO
reid won the first 6 rounds and scored a knockdown and was scared of being dq by the most bias ref i have ever seen that fight should hsave been investigated.

 

just checked ottke v larson fight took place just before esb crashed so all the posts before that date were deleted

i found a post i made years ago when my memory would have been fresher


" he had great footspeed and defensive abilties.

hand speed was ok but nothing special, it was his legs that were special.

brewer beat him in the first fight, larson fight was very close but i had ottke up by 1 point, i a fight were there were only perhaps 30 punches landed by both fighters in the entire fight.

reid fight should have been declared a no contest and the ref and promoter looked into.

but ottke could box, made glen johnson look silly and limited.

but ottke had many many close fights for a reason.

the ottke corner new the scores of the judges after each round and had a huge huge advantage because of that.

it meant he never had to take risks to win fights and risk getting caught by punches.

the l****n fight for example was incredibly close , yet ottke knowing he only had to see out the last round without being decked never threw a sinlge punch in the last round got on his bike and ran around the ring with larson not able to do anything and ottke i think won by split descion.

i thought he beat starie/markusson/brewer 2/ clearly in fights sometimes called rrobberies.

johnson himself i think insinuates he was robbed, he was not , he was outboxed easily and then ottke got on his bike and coasted knowing johnson needed a ko to win.
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2 then future pro greats sharing the ring

 

He agreed to. Ottkes team didnt think Calzaghe was popular enough and that Calzaghe would have to build a profile in Germany for a while, but fortunately the other 21 fighters he defended against must have been popular enough

 

I have Ottke at #3 in all time SMW ratings

 

You have to look at overall resume and Ottke was at the end of his career in what was a debateable fight, but overall look at who Ottke fought and what he did at SMW -

13th fight when he won a world title

Ottke made 21 title defences and was a winner of 22 world title fights

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the then IBF SMW champ for the title, beaten twice

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who went on to become the Ring & IBF LHW champ

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who went on to become the WBA LHW champ

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who went on to become the 2 time WBA SMW champ

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the then WBA SMW champ and 2 time WBA champ

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the former WBC SMW champ and still world class

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the former WBO MW champ (a smaller fighter)

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world class who went on to become European champ

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world class who went on to become European champ

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