I will tell you 5 top world level suppermiddleweights of the past few years. Please, tell me one that would not KILL ottke in the ring. canelo, ward, roy jones, toney and lets say froch. What guys like sugar ray leonard or hearns would do to him could be qualified as porn. Even at the end of their careers. Because ottke was BASIC. When you say "very talented defensively" you really mean "always in his shell". Not the same, sorry. Good fighters would stick his guard up on his arse and send him to the hospital in a blink. Ottke is what ottke is. That's all. Nothing even close to a really top fighter. Man, I think about canelo vs ottke and I cant stop laughing. EDIT: and yes, you are right, peds are disgusting. But with "el feroz" vargas a whole world was opened to me. Vargas, trinidad, de la hoya, roy jones, finito lópez, hopkins, toney.... a whole new world, TRUE top level boxing. And no, sorry, Ottke does not belong there.
