Sven Ottke Most Protected Fighter?

Wasn't even 15, so once again you are posting without even knowing the facts
Seems a common trend on here, so I will give you another.
Jones had more lhw title defences when michalczewski was a lhw champ, than calzaghe did when ottke was a rival smw champ.

 

Problem is, you don't pay any attention to facts and post your opinion as if it was a fact
All the same a belated happy new year

 

You’re very defensive.

All I said was that Joe wouldn’t fight Roy earlier and that he was content to do what Eubank had done before him.

Again, he deserves credit for beating Hopkins. But a lot of what Aussie Invader has said is the truth.

On a previous post, you said that Ricky Hatton had an ATG like Floyd to pursue.

You said that a fighter needs a dance partner. And I agree.

Roy was Joe’s ATG to pursue.

Ricky had to move up to WW to fight Floyd.

There is no fallacy.

Joe moving up to LHW is nothing like asking Floyd to fight GGG at MW.

Joe DID move up to LHW.

You’ve actually given him credit for doing that.

So there’s no hating.

It’s very simple:

If he deserves credit for his wins up at LHW at the end of his career, then it’s also fair to criticise him for not having moved up earlier when they were better fighters to pursue.

That’s not hating.

That’s the truth.

He could have pursued better fighters at LHW, instead of stagnating at SMW for several years.

 

That's a good post

 

Actually why I went off ESB for a while
You post facts and they go away and come back later as if forgetting the link you just showed them

 

Far from.
I acknowledge grey areas but do call proven facts black and white and that really gets up the nose of people who like to spew fake rubbish

 

Come on now.

Me and Bailey have been at war (only in jest) for 10 years.

It’s great to have him back.

I’ve genuinely missed him.

I’ve not seen him in about 7-8 months.

He’s part of the furniture.

Nobody could gang up on him, even if they wanted to.

Bailey would hold his own against 50 posters.

I hope that he’s doing okay.

There’s no malice in anything at all that I write. Not to you guys.

I’d be genuinely upset if he ever left permanently.

He once caused an argument between me and my girlfriend on holiday. About 7-8 years ago, I took my partner to Stratford Upon Avon for a romantic weekend away. But on a lovely sunny day sat next to the river, I ended up taking her phone off of her, so I could argue with Bailey on here. I had it for about 20 mins and she went mad. Ha! She still talks about today.

 

well.... I'm OK-ish

 

Just saying there's usually much more context to the numbers you like. But I do suppose you make some good point now and then.

 

Bailey....if you are going to try to be a stickler for the #'s., what was the point of your post comparing other divisions dual champs to Joe and Svens concurrent reigns, when NONE of your examples came close to joe/sven defense strings...

 

I think that is a good example of 2 fighters, both champs in a division making several defences at the same time and having several opponents in common yet never fighting
Can't see what you think is so different?