Sven Ottke > RJJ

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Jones Jr.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ottke.

    That being said Ottke is responsible for one of my favorite KO's in the last 15 years.:clap:
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  2. madballster

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    I agree. People who claim Ottke was featherfisted haven't seen the brutal KO of Anthony 'the Man' Mundine. German paramedics offered to carry him out on a stretcher but Mundine refused.

    Imagine Ottke landing this monster punch on RJJ's chin :lol:
     
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  3. HerolGee

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    its a dive, mundine was paid to do it.

    one day he'll admit it.
     
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  4. Serge

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    Don't forget that Ottke also fought these guys in the amateurs

    Michael Moorer - WBO LHW champion, WBA, IBF, WBO HW champ

    Henry Maske - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist, European gold medalist x 3, long reigning IBF LHW champ

    Ariel Hernandez - 2 x Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist x 2 & 1 x silver

    Alexander Lebziak - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold & silver medalist, European gold medalist x 2, silver x 1, bronze x 2

    Chris Byrd - Olympic silver medalist, WBO & IBF HW champion

    Zsolt Erdei - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze medalist, European gold medalist x 2 & silver x 1, long reigning WBO LHW champ, WBC CW champ

    Torsten May - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist

    Vassiliy Jirov - Olympic gold medalist, 2 x world amateur bronze medalist, IBF CW champion

    Juan Carlos Gomez - long reigning WBC CW champ, world junior champion as an amateur

    Antonio Tarver - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze, WBC, IBF, WBA LHW champ

    Sinan Samil Sam - world amateur gold and bronze medalist, European bronze and silver medalist, world junior gold medalist, European HW champion

    Ramon Garbey - world amateur gold & medalist medalist

    Torsten Schmitz - world amateur silver medalist 2 x bronze, European silver medalist

    Ottke fought some of them 2, 3, or 4 or more times too. Roy would've been knocked spark unconscious by half of those guys and got his little ears boxed off by a few more had he dared go anywhere near them. The only one he did face out of them was Tarver and he got KTFO. Roy was knocked out by a pity pat punching Irishman in the amateurs that no one had ever heard of.
     
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  5. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    bailey,

    I'm not talking about the history of the divisions, I'm talking about the history of the belts.

    The WBC and WBA belts were obviously more appealing to a fighter than the WBO belt back in the day.

    I'm not disputing Joe's reign or the quality of the fights. I'm just noting that the belt wasn't highly regarded back then.

    Yes, it's now getting ridiculous. It makes me so angry. Like you've mentioned, across all of the organisations, we have interim, super, silver and regular champs etc. It's an absolute joke. I never thought we'd see this. How many titles are now available in the SMW division?

    Again, it was just an example.

    You were watching back then, you know that the WBO was lightly regarded. I'm not debating whether or not that was fair, I'm just noting that that's how things were.

    :good
     
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  6. Imperial1

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    :lol:


    Comedy gold so what Otteke was a better pro than Jones was then based on all this :lol:
     
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  7. madballster

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    Answer me this RJJ apologists: What if feather-fisted Ottke landed his best punch on Roy's chin. What would happen :lol:
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Don't forget that Ottke also fought these guys in the amateurs

    Michael Moorer - WBO LHW champion, WBA, IBF, WBO HW champ

    Henry Maske - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist, European gold medalist x 3, long reigning IBF LHW champ

    Ariel Hernandez - 2 x Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist x 2 & 1 x silver

    Alexander Lebziak - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold & silver medalist, European gold medalist x 2, silver x 1, bronze x 2

    Chris Byrd - Olympic silver medalist, WBO & IBF HW champion

    Zsolt Erdei - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze medalist, European gold medalist x 2 & silver x 1, long reigning WBO LHW champ, WBC CW champ

    Torsten May - Olympic gold medalist, world amateur gold medalist

    Vassiliy Jirov - Olympic gold medalist, 2 x world amateur bronze medalist, IBF CW champion

    Juan Carlos Gomez - long reigning WBC CW champ, world junior champion as an amateur

    Antonio Tarver - world amateur gold medalist, Olympic bronze, WBC, IBF, WBA LHW champ

    Angel Espinosa - world amateur gold and silver medalist

    Sinan Samil Sam - world amateur gold and bronze medalist, European bronze and silver medalist, world junior gold medalist, European HW champion

    Andrey Kurniavka - world amateur gold and silver medalist, European bronze medalist

    Ramon Garbey - world amateur gold & bronze medalist

    Torsten Schmitz - world amateur silver medalist 2 x bronze, European silver medalist

    Egerton Marcus - Olympic silver medalist

    Thomas Ulrich - Olympic bronze medalist, world amateur bronze medalist, world junior silver medalist, European LHW champ

    Rostislav Zaulichnyy - world amateur bronze medalist, 2 x European bronze medalist, gold medalist at the world cup

    Chris Johnson - Olympic bronze medalist, world amateur bronze medalist

    Henryk Petrich - Olympic bronze medalist

    Rhoshii Wells - Olympic bronze medalist

    Jean-Paul Mendy - world amateur bronze medalist, 2 x European bronze

    Fought Moorer x 2
    Ariel Hernandez x 4
    Lebziak x 4
    Maske x 2 (think it was even more times than that)
    Tarver x 2
    Torsten May x 2
    Tortsen Schmitz x 2
    Garbey x 2
    Mendy x 2
    Chris Johnson x 3

    He probably fought some of those guys even more than that, they're just the results I could find. And he fought a load more quality amateurs too, national champions, champions of their continent, gold, silver, bronze medalists in various prestigious international tournaments etc.
     
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  9. Mind Reader

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    I have to admit, that is one hell of an amateur resume.:yep:good
     
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  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He lost to quite a few of them but he also beat a lot of those guys or split results with them. I'm not even a fan of his but, yes, he certainly fought a hell of a lot of excellent fighters and very highly decorated amateurs. A ridiculous amount of Olympic gold medalists and world amateur champions :good
     
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  11. Mind Reader

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    No shame in losing some going up against that kind of opposition.:good
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :yep Especially when you look like a 80s German pornstar.

    http://i.imgur.com/34PzAj8.png
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    :rofl

    I've been considering doing a thread on him for awhile entitled Sven Ottke: The Phantom Of The Spandau Ballet.:yep
     
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  14. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: That's a good title.

    I don't know if you saw my post in your Shabranskyy thread earlier but I uploaded Rosado vs Clottey onto Dailymotion. Make sure to switch to 480p as it plays automatically at 380p.
     
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  15. Imperial1

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    It is an impressive resume but Roy's resume ametuer wise was not as stellar as say Otteke or some other lesser fighters ..
     
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