Sven Ottke - The Robbery Years.

Nonsense. Just go to the live ticker at ZDF and ARD and you'll see them calling as they see it, at the very official web page! The guest in the studio and the commentators (man, are they bad!) are usually more controlled but voice their opinions albeit not so violently you would get in the UK or USA. Just like the German tabloids are not as nasty as the UK ones, so aren't the commentators.

 

I saw an Ottke fight, not sure which one, but his opponent scored a clear knockdown of Ottke, but the ref called it a slip. Boxing in Germany...

 

I understand your point and maybe you do think Ottke won those fights.

But you do agree with me that German Boxing is biased.
However, even if you do think Ottke won those fights, objective judges may have seen it different. The majority of people saw it different, so it is very possible unbiased judges would have seen it different.

 

:good a joke!

 

Boxing is biased everywhere, not only in Germany. The most crappies rules including Handball.

Most people who 'saw' it differently didn't see the fights but rather reply on rumors spread across numerous boards. Germans have always been a good target for hating.

 

That'll be the Reid fight.

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So, you base your knowledge about boxing in Germany on that one fight. Well, I saw Sturm, Schulz and Lewis get robbed in America. Boxing in the US ...

 

Robin Reid would have been justified in smacking the ref & then getting on with the real fight.

Most fights I watch that are in Germany seem to be reffed jokingly - they almost seem rigged from the start.

A disgraceful state of affairs

 

I remember the Thomas Tate fight and the Robin Reid fights like they were yesterday and they were both very close..... Refereeing was awful in both and Svenn did have a lot of **** decisions around that time..

 

LMAO Nah, I just was just teasing....

Boxing is corrupt everywhere, any given time.

I do agree with you on all robberies, though, anywhere, it's ****ed no matter where it takes place.

Though I have noticed the corruption seems to hail mostly from Germany as of late.

 

So, then tell me who was robbed in Germany recently?

 

The problem is that I have followed German boxing for the last 15 years . IMO, German boxing a lot more biased than the States. I do not know about the UK.

I do think Ottke is a decent boxer but I am convinced that he would lost some decisions if the fights would have taken in the US.

This is not about Ottke, but about the Sauerland and Kohl Mafia. Remember Graciano Rocky, he got fk by both.

 

First, you are biased. Second, there´s a difference in American and European scoring. In America aggression counts for a lot more than in Europe. But that has to do how boxing is seen. In America boxing is entertainment in Europe, especially in Germany, it´s a sport. Look how big a boring boxer like Maske was over here compared to the much more exciting and equally good Graziano Rocchigiani.

 

Do you speak German? I doubt it.... and without that you can watch the fights but you have no clue what's going on around it, in the corner and what people, commentators and experts are thinking and voicing.

To say that boxing is more corrupt in Germany than in the states is just a joke. How do you measure it? You give me one bad decision in Germany I'll give you two, three, hell probably ten in the states! Bad decision have always been in boxing because of crappy undefined rules and limited cognitive system of us humans.

 

Like I said, I did follow German boxing for the last 15 years so I definitley know what I am talking about.

- I am not from Germany but I do speak German fluently. Ottke was informed between rounds in all of his fights about the official scoring. That is strictly illegal and an unfair advantage. Hell, even the commentators did admit it and they did not even know that it was illegal. Anyway if you really watched the fights, you would acknowledge that fact just as the Ottke fan "Loewe" here.

- The last fighter who won a close decision in a title fight in Germany was Virgil in 1996. You are still not able to provode me with other examples. That is proof enough to me that you can not win close verdicts in Germany. Do you think this is all a coincidence? Now, it is getting ridicoulous.

- The Reid fight was a robbery. Do you really think that the judges were just corrupt that night. They very probably also in other Ottke fights.

- The crowd may have you mislead you. German crowd is incompetent and always screams for every light Ottke flurry.