before star throwing insults think about it.Andre Ward is elevated to #1 p4p by the american fans and he's nothing but a bad impersonator of Ottke.Ottke was the only one who invented his own style of fighting in the last 50 years : the stay at home robbing style which many are now copying,like Sven Warddke,the p4p king.Ottke never had to drain an opponent to beat him,unlike his american nephew Warddke,who feasted in Calzaghe leftovers and bums and he's now #1 p4p.So,as much as i hate to say it,if Warddke is #1 p4p for beating Calzaghe leftovers and draining a lhw then Sven Ottke is not only greater than Joe,i dare to say he is #1 ATG