Sven Ottke

Agree on the footwork . Its what allowed to squirm and weasel his way out of combat. The dude was a joke.

 

DC noones going to admit a serial cheat into the hof.

 

Don't understand why people consider his win over Glen Johnson to be some kind of gift/robbery. Not a great fight but I thought Ottke legitimately outboxed and outpointed his less skilled opponent in that one.

 

Also helped him get the best of a still crude Glen Johnson, who displayed atrocious footwork in their fight.

 

I agree.

When Glen Johnson was the light heavyweight champion, the story began that all his previous losses came from robberies. This guy robbed him. That guy robbed him. HBO kind of perpetuated it. Apparently, any time Johnson fought before he appeared on HBO, if that fight had been competitive and Glen didn't get the decision, HBO and GLEN said he was robbed. And I guess that stuck.

I admit I didn't see all his earlier losses when they occurred. I did see some. And, at the time, I thought Ottke beat him. I thought Julio Gonzales beat him. I even thought Derrick Harmon beat him straight up. The Woods fights were all close. Watched them all at the time. The Hopkins fight, too. Never was outraged or anything.

Later, on message boards, apparently I'd missed something and everything had been a highway robbery.

 

That makes him a positive globetrotter compared to Ottke.

 

Average boxer (massively protected) and gifted some of the most corrupt refereeing and judging I have ever witnessed.

 

He fought once outside of Germany in his entire professional career, in his 7th fight....and it was in Austria ffs against a Russian!

 

I watched the Gonzales fight live and recorded it myself. It wasn't a robbery. The Derrick Harmon fight played on a loop on Fox Sports for about two years, and Harmon won that going away. Glen Johnson fought competitively against most people.

Johnson's most dominant win, interestingly, came against Roy Jones (when everyone thought going in Jones would beat him easily). But other than that, Johnson tended to be involved in close fights with both good fighters and not-so-good fighters. He never really stood out much in the ring or was a dominant force, except for the Jones fight.

 

Every amateur has to travel if they want to win European, World or Olympic titles - there are no purse bids enabling them to stay at home. e.g. Calzaghe fought all over Europe as an amateur. So its completely irrelevant to comment on the location of a boxer's amateur vs professional fights.

 

yeh like USA and Britain are going to carry out a Disgrace of Gijon.

Its really not the same.

 

About as irrelevant an argument as it's gets. Just give it up mate and stop trying to move the goalposts.

 

I'll let the DoG slide, u didnt pick up on it.

swings and roundabouts really.

 

Left out Harmon. Which was a clear loss. Sosa too.

 

Yours appear like those of Ignoramus!