Swap around Ken Norton's and Evander Holyfield's.........

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  1. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    .............prime and most signifigant fights. How would these fights go ?



    Ken Norton 1973 v James 'Buster' Douglas 1990
    Ken Norton 1973 v George Foreman 1991
    Ken Norton 1974 v Bert Cooper 1991
    Ken Norton 1974 v Larry Holmes 1992
    Ken Norton 1976 v Riddick Bowe 1992



    Evander Holyfield 1990 v Muhammad Ali 1973 (first Norton fight)
    Evander Holyfield 1991 v Muhammad Ali 1973 (second Norton fight)
    Evander Holyfield 1991 v George Foreman 1974
    Evander Holyfield 1992 v Muhammad Ali 1976
    Evander Holyfield 1992 v Larry Holmes 1978
     
  2. PhillyPhan69

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    Just me take.
     
  3. Stevie G

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    Good and interesting post,Philly.


    As far as the Ali trilogy goes,I see it like this -


    Fight one - Ali by one point.
    Fight two - Ali by three points.
    Fight two - Holyfield by two points.
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

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    LOL, only if he had the same judges as in the Norton fights....Sorry, I had to say it.
     
  5. Stevie G

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    :lol:
     
  6. Stevie G

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    I see a prime Foreman stopping Holyfield around the early/middle session of the fight. In their real bout,the 42 year old Foreman enjoyed most success when they were mixing it up. A prime George would have far more of those moments.
     
  7. Webbiano

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    Ken Norton 1973 v James 'Buster' Douglas 1990
    Norton's would have far to much for a fat and out of shape Douglas. Norton gets to him early, but doesn't finish him off till around the 7/8th
    Ken Norton 1973 v George Foreman 1991
    Norton should be good enough to do what Michael Moorer did, minus getting knocked out in the 10th. Wide decision for Ken, although the moment George lands something big, Norton's in trouble
    Ken Norton 1974 v Bert Cooper 1991
    Norton should be good enough to win this. Cooper hit fairly hard though, and Ken struggled with fighters that had elite punching power. There could be a few shaky moments, but Norton would prevail with a fairly comfortable UD
    Ken Norton 1974 v Larry Holmes 1992
    A no brainer for me. Norton, like Frazier, has one of the best styles to beat Holmes. Deals with Larry more comfortably than Evander did IMO
    Ken Norton 1976 v Riddick Bowe 1992
    Now this is tricky. I mean Bowe should win, but pinpointing when the fight gets stopped (if at all) is the tricky part. I don't think Bowe hit as hard as Foreman and Shavers, so I think Ken could last till the later rounds, but I definitely see Bowe ending proceedings while up on the cards.

    Evander Holyfield 1990 v Muhammad Ali 1973 (first Norton fight)
    Evander's combination punching would give Ali trouble. This one would be a serious 50-50 if you ask me, but I think Ali would nick it.
    Evander Holyfield 1991 v Muhammad Ali 1973 (second Norton fight)
    I like Evander here. If you look at both of their records they both did better in rematches, but I think Holyfield could swarm Ali, which was the best way to beat him, take him to war and grab a close decision
    Evander Holyfield 1991 v George Foreman 1974
    In Zaire? It's quite possible Evander could survive the relentless pressure if he boxed smart. The moment he tries to go to war (if it's before the 5th) he's done for. I think Holyfield should be smart enough to box Foreman and wear him down, similarly to what Ali did
    Evander Holyfield 1992 v Muhammad Ali 1976
    Evander has to be favourite in this one. This would be an absolute war and I see Ali giving to many rounds away while taking a breather as he can't keep up with the incredible pace Holyfield could set in his prime. 10-5 UD to Holyfield. A toughly fought decision, but a clear winner
    Evander Holyfield 1992 v Larry Holmes 1978
    Holyfield by decision and I'll tell you why. Evander could swarm Larry just like Norton did, and taking into account both of their ages, he probably dies it better and more effective than Ken did. Holmes would be with him all the way and could nick it, but I'll give the slight edge to Holy.

    Nice thread Stevie boy :good
     
  8. Webbiano

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    I think this would be the case for me as well had it not been in Zaire. Ali still would have beat George in a regular venue, don't get me wrong, but if Evander actually faced George in the RITJ, then I think he takes it if he boxes smart
     
  9. Stevie G

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    Thanks :good I see the Ali of the second Norton fight as the version who would beat Holyfield the most clearly though. Good post,yourself :good